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Old 03-27-2007, 03:35 AM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default Another paired board special - blind battle with wildman

Mofo is 48/21 over 150 hands. Here's the problem with his raise. I don't want to three bet him, because he's liable to cap me, but I don't want to fold, because I think my hand's too good for that here. So I just called. Flop is eh - I have possible overcard and backdoor straight and flush draws. I think it's good enough for a peel, so I do it. Anyone raising here? Turn is cool - I'm that much closer to my flush. Calling seems like the only good option to me here, with a three-bet looming if I raise. River sucks, but does anyone call this?

PokerStars 3/6 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. UTG posts a blind of $3.
UTG (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Flop: (5 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.50 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.50 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 6.50 BB
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:39 AM
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Default Re: Another paired board special - blind battle with wildman

I call river always with that healthy pot. Your line is fine.

Edit: Anybody 3b PF? Sucks to have A-high with one left to act behind against a LAG.
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Old 03-27-2007, 03:47 AM
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Default Re: Another paired board special - blind battle with wildman

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Edit: Anybody 3b PF? Sucks to have A-high with one left to act behind against a LAG.

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I was thinking about this as well. Its not really a steal raise from the SB, but if he has a good grasp on pot odds he should be raising pretty lightly, so 3-betting to knock out the poster looks better than calling and giving odds to call with a lot of hand in position.

Bla bla... I 3-bet preflop or fold if SB is tight.

Postflop looks good.
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:15 AM
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Default Re: Another paired board special - blind battle with wildman

I don't understand the river fold.
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:17 AM
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Postflop looks good.

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For some reason I thought you called the river. So postflop doesnt look good IMO. I call the river.
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Old 03-27-2007, 01:27 PM
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Default Re: Another paired board special - blind battle with wildman

call river
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:29 PM
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WOW --- call the river dude. I dont think it's close.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:43 PM
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Default Re: Another paired board special - blind battle with wildman

I agree the river should be a call. But given that we're putting in another BB on the river, does anyone like to raise the turn and take a free showdown on the river unimproved?
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:44 PM
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WOW --- call the river dude. I dont think it's close.

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This must be one of those "tough folds" that Seth was referring to when describing my high w$sd figure. Alright, I guess I botched this one.
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Old 03-27-2007, 02:44 PM
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I agree the river should be a call. But given that we're putting in another BB on the river, does anyone like to raise the turn and take a free showdown on the river unimproved?

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if he 3bets are you calling the river? if he calls and donks a blank river are you going to call?

if you cant easily answer yes to both of these questions than raising the turn is bad.
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