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Old 03-27-2007, 02:40 AM
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Default PLO 25max....push this turn or fold?

Villian in this hand is a very tight player who i have seen just call on the river with the nut straight. He doesn't seem like he knows exactly what he is doing. Villian has Hero covered.

Hero is in the SB with Ac,Jc,10c,4h. UTG+2 raises to $1 pf, 4 callers.

Flop 2c, 6c, 9s Pot = $5.50

UTG+2 bets $4, CO calls, Hero calls

Turn 8s, giving hero up/down str8 with nut flush drw.

UTG+2 checks, CO bets 3/4 potish, do you push with your draws here and win enough of the time even if you have a strong feeling that CO has top set?

thanks for the help.
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Old 03-27-2007, 04:02 AM
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Default Re: PLO 25max....push this turn or fold?

I have no idea what the effective stacks are here. You have 14 potential outs and 10 clean for sure. He doesnt sound like hes folding anything here no matter what.
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:35 AM
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Default Re: PLO 25max....push this turn or fold?

If you feel strongly that villain has top set then you need to give some attention to UTG+2, whats your read on him? Also could you please include the stack and pot sizes through the hand. For example if UTG+2 has villan covered my decision might be different if they were to have to call all in on the turn.

I want to help you out but please post the stack sizes first .
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Old 03-27-2007, 05:41 AM
harry89 harry89 is offline
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Default Re: PLO 25max....push this turn or fold?

as pointed in the first response.
Without stacksizes it's not clear what an allin means for UTG+2 and the CO. Does this mean they are both allin also. Or are they allready semi-allin (i can believe that the CO is pot committed here to call with marginal hands).
I believe, if you know that you're against a topset here you should fold. There's only one card left for you to hit and 14 outs.
Personally i prefer to potbet postflop and if possible to get all my money in the pot.

Hands you can be up against now are sets and a made straight. Which means you need to hit you're flush to win the pot and with a straight you prolly split the pot.
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Old 03-27-2007, 12:56 PM
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Default Re: PLO 25max....push this turn or fold?

I dont have the hand history so i don't have exact numbers. It was something like this though UTG+2 had about $14 to start the hand, Hero had around $28, and Villian had hero covered slightly.
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