NL10 mid PPs makes second pair

[juanepr]

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UTG ($8.35)
MP ($21.55)
CO ($9.95)
Hero ($10.35)
SB ($3.20)
BB ($6.65)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.10, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP folds.

Flop: ($1.25) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">CO bets $1.1</font>, Hero ?

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Hero ($12)
BB ($10.35)
UTG ($9.40)
MP ($7.90)
CO ($16.45)
Button ($8.90)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $0.5</font>, Hero calls $0.45, BB calls $0.40.

Flop: ($1.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $0.8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2.2</font>, BB folds, Button calls $1.40.

Turn: ($5.90) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ?

I find myself in these situations quite a bit. Both villians in these hands are around 12/4, so these flops usually do no hit them. However, post flop they find it hard to let go of hands. I am unsure of how to play these hands without turning them into bluffs.

Hand #1
I re-raise preflop with JJ+. Is it better to call and revaluate or do I raise him here? What is our plan for the turn?

Hand #2
My re-raise was called. Do I give up? If not, what's the plan.


Thanks!

[zaephyr]

Given pfr of villians fold both on flop.

oard: 7s 4d Tc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 62.612% 61.57% 01.04% 175548 2970.00 { 99+, AQs+, AKo }
Hand 1: 37.388% 36.35% 01.04% 103632 2970.00 { 99 }


The way u played 2nd hand u need to bet turn, this is an excelent card for u, i doubt villian had fd and he might put you on overpair/fd/pair of tens on flop.

[catfish_01]

Hand 1: I would fold this flop against an unknown. If you are calling that raise you are probably playing for set equity. Since you cold-called the raise and he bet into you, you are in the dark. A 3-bet preflop might be a good play to regain your positional advantage. If you had 3-bet pf, villian smooth called, you would be much better off on the flop. If villian still bets into you, on this board, you could be even more comfortable folding; but if he checked to you, a c-bet might pick up the pot.

Hand 2: Again, against an unknown, I don't think it's a good spot for this play. You have a big pot on the turn, in the dark, without a great hand; not a good spot for you.

[boycalledroy]

Fold them and play your big hands for value. These are not your big hands imo.

TpTk+ go broke on.

[Machavelli]

Hand 1:
I re-raise and see what happens. If unimproved I'm not putting more money in the pot. Sometimes I'm going to smooth call and try and fire on a blank turn.

Hand 2: I check turn and fold to any bet.

[catfish_01]

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Hand 2: I check turn and fold to any bet.

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Do you agree that on hand two this is not a good spot to raise and thus your suggestion is just to salvage the situation, or do you think that OP's play is fine?

[tiger_hall]

in the second hand it is an easy lay down.... trips and flush draw possible.... i wud check it and if they check back then i think that i am ahead althou no point betting on river.. a check call is easier as u hav kept the pot smaller...

[DexterJoe]

I would've folded them both on the flop... 1st hand it looks like you are beat, 2nd hand you're check raised on the flop - again I'd guess you're beat with less than TP or overpair.

[Machavelli]

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Hand 2: I check turn and fold to any bet.

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Do you agree that on hand two this is not a good spot to raise and thus your suggestion is just to salvage the situation, or do you think that OP's play is fine?

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I think raising in this spot is marginal. Somewhat read dependent. Has villain been cbetting every time? When his cbets are raised does he let go or float? Will villain bet/call a raise on a draw? Whats your image? Are you been seen betting/raising on draws? Lots of questions to be answered. Given the right answers to those questions i think raising that flop isn't bad.

[tiger_hall]

first hand i am re raising the continuation bet.. otherwise u dont know if u have him beat... if he calls he has you... otherwise u take it down..