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Old 03-26-2007, 01:11 AM
b33nz b33nz is offline
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Default bluffing my whole stack

villain is a bad lag. stats somewhere around 43/25 over a small sample. he bets out small frequently. ive already folded to one of his small bets on the river. what could he have here and do i ship it?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$2/$4 Blinds
6 Players
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<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
SB: $737.30
BB: $1757.30
UTG: $412.50
<font color="black">Hero (MP): $431.70</font>
CO: $1248.25
BTN: $400

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7 ($6, 6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $14</font>, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls $10

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 8 2 A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($30, 3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $16</font>, Hero calls $16

<font color="black">Turn:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($62, 3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $20</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $80</font>, BB calls $60

<font color="black">River:</font> 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($222, 3 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $44</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $321.70</font>
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:14 AM
flytrap flytrap is offline
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

I definately fold this on the flop. Bad lags with huge stacks will often call down pretty light against someone with way less chips. I'd rather use my bluffs on someone that can lay down a hand. Wait to make a hand against this guy.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:14 AM
Whisper Whisper is offline
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

This is pretty player dependant, but looks like hes got a monster. But if he does this a lot then this could be a weak hand or air.
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Old 03-26-2007, 01:18 AM
Go_Blue88 Go_Blue88 is offline
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

In general, I don't like pushing over these weird blocking bet dealies against bad players b/c it's so easy for him to convince himself to call "I look so weak, ugggg call call call."

However, in my HU games I've noticed that these bad Lags often bluff with these types of bets. In order to make a play like this though, I'd wanna be sure that I had a solid read/instinct.
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Old 03-26-2007, 02:39 AM
ArturiusX ArturiusX is offline
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

You're exposing yourself into getting outplayed here.
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:18 AM
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

pick a better spot
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Old 03-26-2007, 03:43 AM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

I'm pretty much never a fan of bluffing bad LAGs when I don't have a solid read or can't put them on a specific range of hands. There's some hands he will fold here and some he won't, but its kind of hard to tell in which way the proportions are tilted. I would just let it go on the flop or turn and wait until a better spot to get involved with him.
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Old 03-26-2007, 10:17 AM
wiggs73 wiggs73 is offline
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

I honestly don't hate it, but I don't love it either. I've seen this be everything from missed clubs that fold to QJ that thinks and thinks but talks himself into a call.

In general, if you're gonna make a play here, I'd rather raise the flop and hope he check / folds the turn. I think it gets similar results at a smaller cost.
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

He often has a weak hand here on the river, but many times that weak hand is better than yours, and many times even though it looks like he's going to block/fold, he will block/call because he's a bad LAG who seems to be running hot.

I would prefer to just raise or fold the flop (fold is my default).
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Old 03-26-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: bluffing my whole stack

I think not raising the flop made your whole line a lot less credible.
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