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Old 03-25-2007, 10:09 PM
FishSticks FishSticks is offline
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Default I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

Guy is new to the table, only been around an orbit or two - no stats yet. I didn't notice anything strange in those 10 hands or whatever, but he seems tightish so far.

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50./$1.
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $100
UTG+1: $26.55
Hero: $98
Button: $116
SB: $94.25
BB: $95.85

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $4.5</font>, Button calls, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

<font color="blue">Limper was a weak player, pretty standard - couple more came along than I wanted though </font>

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($15, 3 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $12</font>, Button folds, BB calls.

<font color="blue"> Flopped top pair, standard cbet, yawn. </font>

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($39, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

<font color="blue"> Guy is unknown, I bet a fair amount here, but wanted a bit of pot control so we weren't playing for stacks on the river. Debatable, but I figure it will induce a weaker pair to call the river - maybe a busted draw will bluff out, yada yada. </font>

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($39, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises all-in $79.35</font>, Hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $64.35 returned to BB.

<font color="blue">When he checks, I figure he can't be strong at all, and make this tiny bet because given the action so far I didn't think I could get a big bet called. Then, what the hell? Wouldn't a decent pair just call? Seems to me he either has a busted draw, or AQ/boat. Could he just be doing it because my river bet looks sketchy? Look it up or fold? </font>
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:10 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

I instacall this river against an unknown
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:11 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

bet like a man or don't bet at all
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:13 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

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bet like a man or don't bet at all

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Okay, just pretend I bet 25 intead of 15 here if it helps - do you call or fold and why?
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

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I instacall this river against an unknown

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This was my first thought, but I don't if I ever get checkraised on the river at 100NL and showdown a winner, you know?
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

look it up just because you kinda played it strange, and I don't know why he would have checked the river with a hand that has you beat. You're hand is pretty under repped so I could see him thinking he can make you fold a T or something. Its close though.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:15 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

Why aren't you betting the turn?

As played, tough to fold... You practically induced a bluff with such a pussy bet.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:16 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

ugly turn check.. gives him a free card to draw and you don't even have a strong hand. River is a call, I don't see how you can fold vs. an unknown.
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:17 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

This guy checked the turn and then pulls a CR on river. Looks to me like you are trying to justify the squeeze on the river. If you wanted to see if you were wa/wb then why don't you take a b/c line on turn and reevaluate the river?
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Old 03-25-2007, 10:18 PM
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Default Re: I spike my river and get checkraised all in?

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bet like a man or don't bet at all

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Okay, just pretend I bet 25 intead of 15 here if it helps - do you call or fold and why?

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It does help, just because it makes a bluff a lot less likely. Just think about all the people on here that see little bets like that and think thin value and just re-pop.
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