How often you fold KK preflop?

Foldarama_City · #1 01-04-2006, 12:30 AM

I know its a pretty basic question but how often do you fold KK preflop? I've played a lot of hands and generally I reraise with KK and if a player comes back over the top I fold. But in the last two days this has cost me some massive pots - triple ups etc - all because I folded the best hand. Should I be calling some more allins? (unless i know they are real rocks)

#2 01-04-2006, 12:38 AM

you should probably fold KK never

esad · #3 01-04-2006, 12:44 AM

I believe there is like a 1 in 22,000(?not really sure but alot) chance of two players being dealt AA and KK pre-flop. So, since AA is the only hand beating you I'd think it's safe to never fold.

Of course I got dealt QQ the other day and the two other that called had AA and KK so the impossible can happen.

Foldarama_City · #4 01-04-2006, 12:49 AM

It seems a lot more common than 1 in 22000 - anyone got an exact stat?

Ansky · #5 01-04-2006, 12:51 AM

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you should probably fold KK never

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Wrong.

MTBlue · #6 01-04-2006, 12:57 AM

Check the archives, El Diablo has a thread where this is discussed in great detail.

Ansky · #7 01-04-2006, 12:57 AM

Good luck randomly finding it.

DrPublo · #8 01-04-2006, 01:00 AM

It's rare but it happens. On 100bb or less I don't think about it all that much.

The Doc

Gregg777 · #9 01-04-2006, 01:00 AM

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It seems a lot more common than 1 in 22000 - anyone got an exact stat?

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1 in 22560 according to this

(There are at least three incorrect stats on that page though)

I'll fold against a known rock, but that's about it.

DrPublo · #10 01-04-2006, 01:04 AM

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It seems a lot more common than 1 in 22000 - anyone got an exact stat?

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1 in 22560 according to this

I'll fold against a known rock, but that's about it.

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That number is for heads up. At a 10-handed table there are 10*9/2 = 45 heads up pairs. So 45/22560, or about .2%.

The Doc