AK whiffed vs. superdonk

[natzucowww]

Villain's 48/2/2.9 over 100 hands, will bet a lot when checked to, donks a lot, makes a lot of plays in general.

Here's a hand with him from earlier.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (BTN): $115.95
SB: $30.45
BB: $97.5
UTG: $147.60
MP: $100
CO: $155.05

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1.5, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, CO calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4.50</font>, SB folds, BB calls $3.50, CO calls $3.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($14, 3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $11</font>, BB folds, CO calls $11

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]] ($36, 2 players)
<font color="red">CO bets $19</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $58</font>, CO folds
Uncalled bet of $39 returned to Hero

<font color="black">River:</font> 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] [] ($74, 1 players)
No action

Here's the hand, i thought about firing the turn and calling the river but didn't.

Full Tilt Poker
$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (SB): $152.6
BB: $99
UTG: $130.85
MP: $165.50
CO: $100
BTN: $100.80

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($1.5, 6 players)
UTG folds, MP folds, CO folds, BTN calls $1, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, BB folds, BTN calls $3

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $7</font>, BTN calls $7

<font color="black">Turn:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] [J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($23, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets $12</font>, Hero calls $12

<font color="black">River:</font> 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] [6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]] ($47, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BTN bets all in for $77.80</font>, Hero folds
Uncalled bet of $77.80 returned to BTN

I didn't think he had anything on the flop, i could of bet the turn but i felt a c/r coming. the river looks like a bluff to me but i folded. anybody call or just move on?

[2218]

How about C/R the turn?

[ElPhoenix]

on the ak hand, calling the turn is the worst option out of call/fold/raise. i like to either fold the turn, or checkraised it to about 40

[ButItWasSuited]

Hand #1: Not sure I like this. Calling the flop and leading the turn, espcially on a K is usually a strong hand. A donk w/ JT or QT check calls a lot of the time here. Especially on a rainbow board.

Hand #2:

c/r turn or fold. Even if you have the best hand on the turn, which isn't all that likely, he probably has 15 outs. Oh--and even c/r'ing is questionable because, I mean, they call it stack a donk for a reason, right?

The river is the nuts. probably 76. Donk overbets are 80% the nuts. Slowplay, slowplay, slowplay, OMG HE WON'T BET FOR ME--ARR IN...

[toohigh]

I dislike both hands to be honest.

A player with stats like this, there is no need to get fancy. Flop strong hands and valuetown him all day.

On the first hand, c-betting 3 way with position is OK, but I give up after that almost always.

Second hand I either fire a second barrel on the turn or fold depending on his cold call and WTSD percentages, but default is to just c/f.

[Ghost_man]

Hand number two , i say you let the hand go on the turn. Calling is I think a bad option with just overcards. I might fire the turn about 60% of pot and see what he does(read dependent). He is on your right, let him think he is outplaying you and catch him later.

[terp]

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on the ak hand, calling the turn is the worst option out of call/fold/raise. i like to either fold the turn, or checkraised it to about 40

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this c/r size is bad because of the amount he bet, the board texture and the amount of your c/r

[arsenal905]

You played the first hand almost as bad as he did. You just put the last raise in.

[Suigin406]

it may be a leak in my game, but against donks, i want a solid holding before i start messing with them and we've missed both flops...tbh, i wait for a better spot, i don't know how effective it is getting fancy with donks...

[jimpo]

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A player with stats like this, there is no need to get fancy. Flop strong hands and valuetown him all day.

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What do you do when you raise pf and miss the flop? cbet or not?

If you cbet when you miss and check a later street, he robs a lot of cbet money from you. If you only bet on the flop when you have a hand, some donks are actually smart enough to get suspicious and fold before being value bet to death. Is this a winning situation?