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Old 03-25-2007, 12:24 AM
ASPoker8 ASPoker8 is offline
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Default AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

Villain is ZBTHorton (mod of MTTc)
This is early in my session, but here is what I can assume:
ZBT knows I am 2+2, knows I am a thinking player, and that I am pretty TAG. He knows I know what a squeeze is and when/who to use it against.

He is 26/20



PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) internettexasholdem.com

Hero ($108)
SB ($57.40)
BB ($127.90)
UTG ($254.15)
MP ($103.50)
CO ($114.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $4</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $12, CO folds.

Flop: ($37.50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets $28.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero


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Old 03-25-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

easiest shove ever

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Old 03-25-2007, 12:25 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

Clayton says right, 3!
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

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(not a word)
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:36 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

k, nvm
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:38 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

well, i mean to say, he thinks he has a ridic amount of FE versus your range of TT+, AQ+

which is why he, and people that play like him, make these really obvious bets with pair+draw or a draw.

of course, it also gives him leeway to make this bet with a set, but you're way good here enough that u must shove, and moreso from a metagame perspective because if he thinks he can just do this more often to blow you off the hand, then he will own you postflop even when you have position.
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Old 03-25-2007, 12:43 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

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well, i mean to say, he thinks he has a ridic amount of FE versus your range of TT+, AQ+

which is why he, and people that play like him, make these really obvious bets with pair+draw or a draw.

of course, it also gives him leeway to make this bet with a set, but you're way good here enough that u must shove, and moreso from a metagame perspective because if he thinks he can just do this more often to blow you off the hand, then he will own you postflop even when you have position.

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Good post. I was more interested in his thought process and interpretation of my range. I am very unaccustomed to the "call 3bet(or squeeze) OOP and lead flop" line, as I have almost never seen it.
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Old 03-25-2007, 01:25 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

Just one question... if your selling the squeeze why are you making a standard re-raise here? That doesn't really matter though, but just something that stuck out.

I think this is a push. It could be a set, pair with draw, combo draw, overpair, pure bluff.... When I played 200NL with villan, he did a similar line with a set so buyer beware.
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Old 03-25-2007, 01:26 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

His range is massive.

Assuming he is good, or at least that he plays like me. He'll do this with any draw, pair/draws, or sets/nuts. It also makes his call of your shove more mathematically sound while taking an aggressive route with his draw-pair/draw type hands.

Results would be interesting just for kicks if you don't mind.
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Old 03-25-2007, 01:30 AM
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Default Re: AA vs ZBTHorton (Weird Bet, O NOEZ!)

Why is he betting instead of check/shoving?

Isn't check/shove better than leading with atc?
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