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Old 03-24-2007, 08:32 PM
patchdiaz patchdiaz is offline
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Default (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

Villain is TAG with an agg factor postflop of over 13. I think his range is ATs+ AJo+ 99+
How would you play this flop? I got a wrong feeling about how I played it. My table image is LAG.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($48)
Hero ($54.75)
BB ($30)
UTG ($53.30)
MP1 ($131.45)
MP2 ($57.25)
CO ($73.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets $3</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to $22.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52.75</font>
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:41 PM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

OMG raise preflop. As played, fold flop.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:48 PM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

raise more preflop as he said. very drawy flop, did he have J10? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

By the way Villain has a 13 postflop aggresion factor. I'll include this in the first post. That's why I didn't reraise PF I was hoping I can win more on the flop, bad move?

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Old 03-24-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

You have to decide if you want to risk to lose a huge pot or to win little ones with hands like these. The way you played it you have no idea where you stand on the flop because you didn't 3-bet. He could easily have 78/89 here or J10, or pocket pairs. If you re-pop him you can narrow down his hands more or he might just fold which is good too.

Does he play those kinda hands in re-raised pots? Will he call with garbage in position?

Those kinda hands are where a lot of players go broke, you need to show more aggression preflop to get more info.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

I don't think he was raising 78/89 or JT from that position. I had like 100 hands from him on PT and said that he was very tight PF that's why I put the range that I write above.

I'm more concerned about a set of 99's, AA or KK more than anything else.

And yes, in retrospective I think I should have reraised him PF. Given the way I played that. How whould you play the flop?

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Old 03-24-2007, 09:07 PM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

awful flop for you hand. I really wouldn't want to get it AI here..I might dump it after the min-reraise. This bet seems very fishy to me like he is trying to take you to value town.. 3betting before the flop lets you know a little more info then you have now. As it is, AA and KK are still in the villains range in addition to all sorts or raggy suited connectors etc. I RR preflop to fold out the JdTd etc.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

ty, anyone else?
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

I'm curious as to why 77 or 88 is not in your range for villain.

Due to you not 3-betting preflop, you now have put yourself in this position. He could have a huge range here, most of which beats you. Me thinks you have to find a fold here, due to the way you played this preflop.
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Old 03-25-2007, 11:50 AM
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Default Re: (50NL) QQ on SB with 789r Flop

How tight was he that over 100 hands you can say he probably wouldn't raise JTs from middle position?
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