Two easy folds?? in 3bet pots 5/10nl & 10/20nl checkup

[tagtastic]

Easy folds or no? I'm runnning at 20/16/3 for these hands.


Hand #1: Villain is running 28/14/1.5 over 89 hands. Haven't really played a pot with him yet.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $5/$10
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $1634
tagtastic: $1042
CO: $1414
Button: $1293.50
SB: $1171.50
BB: $666.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) tagtastic is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $35</font>, <font color="#cc0000">tagtastic raises to $120</font>, 4 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($255, 2 players)
UTG checks, <font color="#cc0000">tagtastic bets $190</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $440</font>, easy fold? check behind? arrrrrr-in?


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Hand #2: Villain is 25/19/6 - a good regular. No relevant history, but I believe he has gotten the better of me most times we've tangled in the past. He hasn't been out of line at all so far at this table. Comments welcome on all streets.

No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $10/$20
5 players
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Stack sizes:
tagtastic: $3555.35
CO: $2042.80
Button: $4814
SB: $2261.35
BB: $2007

Pre-flop: (5 players) tagtastic is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">tagtastic raises to $70</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $220</font>, tagtastic calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($450, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $375</font>, tagtastic calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($1200, 2 players)
BB checks, tagtastic checks.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($1200, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $757</font>, another easy fold? take a different line? call all day?

[BobboFitos]

both are calls

[tagtastic]

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both are calls

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in hand #1, calling leaves me with $482 in an $1135 pot, whats the plan for the turn then?

[BobboFitos]

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both are calls

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in hand #1, calling leaves me with $482 in an $1135 pot, whats the plan for the turn then?

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get the money in, obv just shoving the rest in on the flop is fine.

[tagtastic]

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get the money in, obv just shoving the rest in on the flop is fine.

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k, that's what I figured you meant.. I just feel like my hand is face up at this point, what does a not-hugely-aggro opponent c/r me with here that I beat?

[BobboFitos]

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get the money in, obv just shoving the rest in on the flop is fine.

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k, that's what I figured you meant.. I just feel like my hand is face up at this point, what does a not-hugely-aggro opponent c/r me with here that I beat?

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air, draw, split, kq.

[aislephive]

Hand 1: Usually I mean AK TPTK in a reraised pot for 100bbs you're going to get the money in, but I think this one is a bit closer and might be a fold with all things considered. He raised UTG, you 3 bet UTG+1, so it's a lot different than something like a button raise / BB 3 bet where ranges are huge from both players. 28/14 is also generally the sign of a semi passive player, at least preflop (which also means they're kind of passive postflop usually IMO). It's really close. His raise sizing seems like it's unlikely to be a draw, but it could also be a bluff occasionally too I suppose.

Hand 2: Eh, tough spot. I'd lean towards a fold but calling is ok too.

[Jman28]

I think both are close. Good hands to post. I say fold #1 call #2. If villains were switched I would do the opposite.

[tagtastic]

Well, being a total donkey, I did the exact opposite. In retrospect I think I like a fold in hand 1 and hand 2 is really close, but I should probably look him up at least some of the time here. Possibly playing scared money at 10/20 [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

Hand 1 I pushed, he showed me AA. Hand 2 I folded pretty fast, but looking back I think maybe it's a call.

[Newt_Buggs]

If you don't feel that you can call a c/r in hand 1 maybe it would be better to check behind on the flop?