5/10 Stud 8 - jammed with a low draw

[Tha Stunna]

Just a hand I'm curious about, I've never been really sure how to play one way low draws. Players are decent but there is probably a lot of semisteal raising on 3rd. Raise on 3rd or 4th? Fold at some other point?

Stage #610991716: Seven Car[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Hi/Lo Normal $5/$10 - 2007-03-22 21:28:46 (ET)
SEAT 4 ($153.24 in chips)
SEAT 1 ($170.77 in chips)
SEAT 2 ($252.75 in chips)
SEAT 3 ($102.01 in chips)
Seat 6 - HERO ($261.50 in chips)
SEAT 2 - Posts the Ante $0.50
SEAT 4 - Posts the Ante $0.50
SEAT 3 - Posts the Ante $0.50
HERO - Posts the Ante $0.50
SEAT 1 - Posts the Ante $0.50

*** 3r[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] STREET ***
SEAT 4 - Pocket [H H 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
SEAT 1 - Pocket [H H 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
SEAT 2 - Pocket [H H 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
SEAT 3 - Pocket [H H Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO - Pocket [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
SEAT 1 - Bring-In $2
SEAT 2 - Folds
SEAT 3 - Raises $5 to $5
HERO - Calls $5
SEAT 4 - Folds
SEAT 1 - Raises $8 to $10
SEAT 3 - Calls $5
HERO - Calls $5

*** 4TH STREET ***
SEAT 1 - Pocket [H H 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
SEAT 3 - Pocket [H H Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
HERO - Pocket [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
SEAT 3 - Bets $5
HERO - Raises $10 to $10
SEAT 1 - Calls $10
SEAT 3 - Calls $5

*** 5TH STREET ***
SEAT 1 - Pocket [H H 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
SEAT 3 - Pocket [H H Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO - Pocket [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]]
SEAT 3 - Bets $10
HERO - Calls $10
SEAT 1 - Raises $20 to $20
SEAT 3 - Calls $10
HERO - Calls $10

*** 6TH STREET ***
SEAT 1 - Pocket [H H 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
SEAT 3 - Pocket [H H Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
HERO - Pocket [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]]
HERO - Checks
SEAT 1 - Bets $10
SEAT 3 - Raises $20 to $20
HERO - Calls $20
SEAT 1 - Calls $10

*** RIVER ***
SEAT 1 - Pocket [H H 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] H]
SEAT 3 - Pocket [H H Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] H]
HERO - Pocket [A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
HERO - Checks
SEAT 1 - Checks
SEAT 3 - Bets $10
HERO - Folds
SEAT 1 - Calls $10

[Alchemist]

I think it looks ok. It's one of those crappy hands where you are simply caught in the middle of two guys going to war and you're just catching good enough to continue. I can't really see a spot where you could or should fold with babies being so incredibly live.

[bigredlemon]

Any reads on the villains? Seat 3 seems to be representing either aces up/quads/boat, but could also have a big two way drawing hand that was oddly overplayed on 3rd. On the river, I think betting out is best. Your hand is sufficiently scary and yet ambiguous enough that worse hands would call, and only better hands would raise. Queens up would call hoping you made a low and if seat 1 somehow hit a low he'd call as well. If any one of them raises then they probably have a big flush or better.

[SweetLuckyMe]

This is one of those hands in a murky area that you have to kind of play out. The way that hand went down I don't think I can fold the kings up on the end for one bet.

Once the Q raises 3rd I don't particularly like a call with so many others behind you. I wouldn't want to take that hand to 4th 3 ways. Barring any player dependent oddities, I'd prefer re-raising 3rd in an effort to ensure it's heads up or find out quickly about other strength. From 4th on it's just one of those hands where you're getting correct odds to continue drawing. Then the simple key is catching. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

[Andy B]

Hard to read, but I think you did OK. I think the pot's a bit big to be folding Kings-up for one bet.