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Old 03-22-2007, 04:37 AM
DanJ. DanJ. is offline
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Default Turn Decision with KK

Villain is 20/8/1.5 - I have lost one RR'd pot at this table. one of them was on the first hand, where a shortstack raised, i 3bet AQs in the BB shorty pushed and i called the extra $15, his AKo held.

This hand is like 5 or 6 hands after my first hand with AQ.

5 handed $200nl

Hero has $200, Villain covers

Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Villain raises to $8, 3 folds, Hero raises to $25, Villain calls

Flop $52 - 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
Hero bets $39, Villain calls <font color="blue">He instacalled </font>

Turn $95~ - A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero???
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

I'd say bet 65/fold. But I'd love to hear advices from far more experienced players.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

heh me too...

He has TT-QQ? I dont think he's peeling wth AK. That being said I have no idea what to do on the turn. Any reasonable bet on the turn commits you to the pot... am I right?
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:56 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

I think check calling here is the best play.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:00 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

i dont like check calling for you are prolly potcomitted (dunno heros stack tho) and will need to call almost any river card.
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

CRAI
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:02 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

i hate this and play this spot badly almost everytime

1) c/f - weak and allows villain to bluff, however he would only be bluffing with QQ JJ TT and FD- practically every toher hand in his range up to now has you beat i think

2) bet out 50- this is ok , you can take down the pot when he has an underpair- however this is pretttty unlikely i thihnk. he will not be folding a flush draw and Betting out the turn leaves you in such a sick state when the river is anything besides the Kh.. How do you call a villain oush if you check the river? even if heas a missed FD, up till know you have almost no info on his hand

3) c/c - this leaves you in a poop spot and i dont think this is +EV. really you are only beating a few hands in his range

4) jesus i hate this spot.

5) after some more though i think a bet of 39- 50 is ok in case villain put you on AK and has either FD or Underpair such as 77 88 TT JJ QQ .. but i think c/f river if villain pushes
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:04 AM
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there is no way hero doesnt have the best hand

enduce the bluff, jam, watch them fold, or call with diamonds/pair+draw
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:06 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

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CRAI

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what if villain bets over 65$ ?????

you have hardly any fold equity

do you still make this play clayton if villain bets 80? ( your CRAI is only 55 more?
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Old 03-22-2007, 05:07 AM
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Default Re: Turn Decision with KK

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there is no way hero doesnt have the best hand

enduce the bluff, jam, watch them fold, or call with diamonds/pair+draw

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AKdd ??
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