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Old 03-22-2007, 03:17 AM
Fiksdal Fiksdal is offline
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Default Is this even a tough spot?

Full Tilt Poker
$0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
5 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
Hero (SB): $9.65
BB: $10.25
UTG: $4.60
CO: $22.10
BTN: $11.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> J 8 ($0.15, 5 players)
UTG folds, CO calls $0.10, BTN folds, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

<font color="black">Flop:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($0.3, 3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.30</font>, BB calls $0.30, CO folds

<font color="black">Turn:</font> J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] [5] ($0.9, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $0.70</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $2.50</font>
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:19 AM
lemming lemming is offline
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

Just fold if you don't know the player... You got TPBK and an inside straightdraw, really not worth the call! Throw it away and play on imo...
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:22 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

fold.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:43 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

turn reraises are strong in general, you have a weak hand, with little to no chance of improving. I would not play this hand, but if I did I would raise it preflop, to take down the BB and the limper. A call prf on the CO is just so weak. big chance is he has trips here, a lot of people at these stakes dont raise mid and low pp.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:55 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

only thing you can beat really is a bluff. fold and wait for a better spot to get some chips in.
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Old 03-22-2007, 04:57 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

I mostly fold this preflop with one limper actually. If I hit a hand like you did, I don't plan on taking it to SD, because it is a very marginal hand oop. As played, turn is an easy fold.
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:36 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

Meh, fold. Not sure I like the turn lead either, the board is pretty dry there.
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:40 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

you should look up your stats of SB play.

I think we spotted a leak in your game.

Just fold preflop and dont get involved in this crappy spots.
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:17 AM
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

No, it isn't.
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:39 AM
avfletch avfletch is offline
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Default Re: Is this even a tough spot?

This flop spot is something I've been experimenting with recently to try to figure out how different options work out. The way I figure it, this is an all around sucky spot to be in and I'm far more inclined to check this flop and then call a bet if it's made by a known stabber.

The reverse implied odds on a hand like this are terrible and you are getting called by a wide variety of hands that will be hard to play against out of position over two streets. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with not pursuing a hand like this when you are unsure of where you stand. If you check this and a reasonably straight forward player in the BB bets then there's every chance he has you beat and if he doesn't he's the one getting away cheap not you.

If the turn bricks eg 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] then there's nothing wrong with sticking a bet out there to protect the equity of your hand and you only have a single street to worry about paying off drawers on. If you gave a free card and the turn looks scary, eg an ace or one of the many straight making cards, then you can let it go and you are only giving up a very small amount.
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