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Old 03-21-2007, 12:03 PM
Grandezza Grandezza is offline
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Default 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

Full Tilt Poker
Pot Limit Omaha Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $51.10
UTG+1: $47.95
CO: $121.20
Hero: $75.65
SB: $44.45
BB: $44.20

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">CO bets $3</font>, Hero calls, 4 folds.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($9, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $9</font>, Hero calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($27, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">CO bets $27</font>

My stats on villain 48/1.5/1.5 or something like that. over 90 hands.

All I know about him that seems to be of importance is that he didn't bet his nut straight when the board paired on the river in a 3-way pot (pretty standard meh).

I guess what I'm asking is how often does he have QJ here?
If i should just call the turn then what do I do if I have an ace?

River is an obvious fold i suppose?
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Old 03-21-2007, 12:30 PM
stacks_for_sale stacks_for_sale is offline
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Default Re: 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

You should have raised pot on the turn. You have the nut straight and at this point there is no need to disguise your hand here. OP might have made the nut straight and have the draw to the ace high straight or even the diamond draw but that's poker.

As played, I think you have to fold this river
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Old 03-21-2007, 01:32 PM
ICantCash ICantCash is offline
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Default Re: 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

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You should have raised pot on the turn. You have the nut straight and at this point there is no need to disguise your hand here. OP might have made the nut straight and have the draw to the ace high straight or even the diamond draw but that's poker.

As played, I think you have to fold this river

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Old 03-22-2007, 02:21 AM
Aisthesis Aisthesis is offline
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Default Re: 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

I think there's too much stack-depth left to raise pot on the turn. Why freeroll someone with the same straight, which he's repping whether he has it or not, and a flush draw to go with it?
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:29 AM
PLOlover PLOlover is offline
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Default Re: 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

I think this is the perfect type of hand to pot raise on the button and it makes the rest of the hand much easier to play.
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Old 03-22-2007, 03:23 AM
JacKnight21 JacKnight21 is offline
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Default Re: 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

Dont take my advice but....
fold or raise preflop because you hand plays better heads up than multiway because only 2 flops 89A rainbow and 89X rainbow are ideal. Because this hand plays well with so few flops (in multi pots) I raise flop but a call is not that bad if you have a mangina/ raise turn yeah he could be free rolling you but there could be monsters under your bed. what cards did you want? well if it was only 1 of 3 cards you should have definitely folded flop.

River as played vs thinking player if I've been playing loose I call/ if tight I fold but vs reg nut peddler I can always fold and it would not be a bad fold vs random unknown --

passive line PF Fold&gt;River Fold&gt;Flop Fold

aggressive line Turn raise is(given) PF raise&gt;flop raise&gt;&gt;&gt;passive line&lt;&lt;&lt;&lt;fold preflop

I do not expect anyone to understand this gibberish
take care out there
J
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Old 03-22-2007, 01:38 PM
wazz wazz is offline
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Default Re: 50 PLO Nut straight on turn but I have no draws

Preflop: Call &gt; fold &gt; raise.

As played, flop: raise &gt; call &gt; fold

As played, turn: raise &gt; call &gt; fold

As played, river: call &gt; fold &gt; raise.

I guess reads are a luxury round here.
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