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Old 03-20-2007, 06:05 PM
kevdawg21 kevdawg21 is offline
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Default 3/5 QQ facing all-in 4 bet pf

Live game, 3/5 blinds, max buy in $200. Villian in this hand is weak loose.

Chip counts:
Villian: $400
Hero: $200

Hero is sb with Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

Preflop: villian raises to $20, 6 folds, hero raises to $90, bb folds, villian raises to $200, hero...?

My question isin't really about this particular hand, but it's really more a general question. With stacks of around 50x, is QQ good enough to call an all-in 4 bet pf, opponent's style notwithstanding? (obviously i'd think harder on a fold if my opponent were very tight and automatic call if my opponent was a lag psycho).

I'm remembering all the times i've been all-in pf with QQ when the action went 4 bets pf, and it's almost always up against KK or AA. Should I be laying this down more with stacks of about 50x? If not, how deep do I need to be before QQ isin't going to cut it in a 4 bet pf?
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:06 PM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default Re: 3/5 QQ facing all-in 4 bet pf

haha im folding this never, unless you have one of those sick live reads or the person is over 70.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:26 PM
KingGordy KingGordy is offline
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Default Re: 3/5 QQ facing all-in 4 bet pf

For 40bb's you're never ever getting away from this after making a 3 bet for almost half your stack.
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Old 03-20-2007, 06:35 PM
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Default Re: 3/5 QQ facing all-in 4 bet pf

If you're 4betting to 90 you need to call. If he his tight you might want to just call pf.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:09 PM
restrikt restrikt is offline
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Default Re: 3/5 QQ facing all-in 4 bet pf

WTF? call.
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Old 03-20-2007, 07:40 PM
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Default Re: 3/5 QQ facing all-in 4 bet pf

You are almost getting odds to hit a set even if he does have Aces or Kings, haha. I love the comment about the villain having to be over 70 to fold this, classic.
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