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Old 03-19-2007, 03:37 PM
shagarty shagarty is offline
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Default Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

Ok, so this hand really had me confused on the flop, tell me what you guys think. Live Saturday night at the Borgata 5/10. I'm sitting with about $4500 and so is villain, only two big stacks at the table. My table image is pretty damn laggy, I was playing like a bit of a moron most of the night. Villian is a good tight aggressive player and not above making moves. Table is playing crazy as hell with a couple nutso Asians.

I'm in CO with 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] two limpers before me, I limp, button limps, SB (villian) limps, BB checks.

Flop comes 8 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]10 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] UTG makes it 25, UTG+1 makes it 100, I make it 350, button folds, SB makes it 1500 after thinking for about a millisecond, pretty damn big bet, even for this game, especially considering most people are sitting with about 2000, except me of course.

Even though I have a laggy image I've recently shown down some monsters and played them fast every time, just like I was now.

UTG and UTG+1 fold, UTG+1 makes it clear he's got the nut diamond draw by how pissed off he is that he's folding. I am about to throw up because I have no idea what the hell to do, and I know I'm not gonna get a read on this guy. But what I do know is that if I smooth call he's pushing the turn no matter what comes because there'll be $3000 in the pot and he's just made a $1500 bet, and we've both got about 2500 left.

What do you guys put him on here? I figured he was either protecting his set of 8s, or figuring his top two pair are good even though there are three bets in front of him, it's the kind of game where top two would be good in the situation, but then he probably put me on a set. could be a diamond draw but it seems unecessary to do when he know if he calls he probably gets two callers behind him, but maybe he knows he won't be able to afford a river card. A very real possibility to me is the same hand as me, but maybe in diamonds for the redraw. I know if he has Q9 it's not diamonds because he'd definitely just call. Thoughts??? Do I push or fold?
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Old 03-19-2007, 03:44 PM
HoosierAlum HoosierAlum is offline
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

This is sick, and I normally wouldn't advise folding the 2nd nuts but....jam hope for running hearts?
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Old 03-19-2007, 03:57 PM
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

Sick spot. What I do here depends on live reads..
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:03 PM
shagarty shagarty is offline
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

Yeah, I was just really on the line with this guy, so hard to tell, strange bet. Looking back I think he definitely used a lot of reverse tells, but pretty subtle ones, I think he's a better player than I gave him credit for at the time.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

this looks like nothing less than the nuts.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:36 PM
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

looks like you're about to go broke on the ignorant end of the straight...
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:43 PM
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

fold, how can this be anything but the nuts?
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

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SB makes it 1500 after thinking for about a millisecond

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Good god that's strong.

I mean... this is a limped pot, for chrissakes!
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:55 PM
JOHNY CA$H JOHNY CA$H is offline
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Default Re: Flopped low straight deepstacked 5/10

Push- you're ahead of his range, all that beats you is Q9.
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Old 03-19-2007, 04:57 PM
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Push- you're ahead of his range, all that beats you is Q9.

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you do realize his range is EXTREMELY tight, right? It's like Q9, 79 and I guess sets. Even when you're ahead, you've still gotta dodge a board pair.
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