$55 Am I a donkey if i shove this

cleinen · #1 02-13-2006, 05:07 PM

PartyPoker, Big Blind is t300 (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t555)
Hero (t1771)
Button (t3394)
SB (t1360)
BB (t2920)

Preflop: Hero is in CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="red">UTG raises to t555 (All-in)</font>, <font color="red">Hero

seke2 · #2 02-13-2006, 05:16 PM

That's a pretty ballsy isolation play with a really marginal holding and 2 big stacks behind you. I wouldn't do it.

Indiana · #3 02-13-2006, 05:20 PM

I'm a donkey and even I know that you're a donkey if you shove this. Hands like QJ preflop lose most of their value if there's no FE attached to the situation.

Indy

Shillx · #4 02-13-2006, 05:22 PM

It is fine. You would have (or should have) pushed if UTG folded. You are almost getting 2:1 here on a coinflip as QJo looks to be about 50% against his range. These are the kinds of moves that can really get you a lot of chips in SNGs. Playing as a favorite or an almost favorite in this case + getting laid odds is a great spot to be in.

seke2 · #5 02-13-2006, 05:27 PM

Except for the fact that you're pushing into 3 players, 2 of whom can call you, and may not need a super-tight range if they think you're on an isolation play.

Also, I doubt SNGPT says a push is +EV even if it was folded to you here.

psyduck · #6 02-13-2006, 05:27 PM

me likey.

remember that there's a ton of dead money in the middle if the blinds fold. The overlay's good enough such that you can afford to gamble against UTG (whose range you might even dominate since he's so very desperate).

psyduck · #7 02-13-2006, 05:28 PM

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Also, I doubt SNGPT says a push is +EV even if it was folded to you here.

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OMFG dude, come on. QJo in CO 5-handed with 6x? Please, it's unexploitable.

seke2 · #8 02-13-2006, 05:32 PM

Really? I'm at work, can someone run it and post the results?

Shillx · #9 02-13-2006, 05:36 PM

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Also, I doubt SNGPT says a push is +EV even if it was folded to you here.

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OMFG dude, come on. QJo in CO 5-handed with 6x? Please, it's unexploitable.

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It is far from unexploitable. Very few pushes are truly unexploitable and this is certainly not one of them. In fact, it is a thin push as QJo becomes severely devalued in this spot (it has to do with the # of players and the dynamics of the calling ranges). But we still have to do a good dose of pushing...almost 30% of the time, and QJo falls in that catagory no matter how you draw it up.

SuitedSixes · #10 02-13-2006, 05:41 PM

I think you really just made this post to show off your new avatar and snow blower.