At least i'm rich off sklansky buck$

nickg1532 · #1 03-17-2007, 05:41 AM

ugh, this is the first time i've ever made a post like this, but after getting continually raped by lee jones for the better part of this year, i needed to vent. maybe he'll see this and feel some sympathy for me (doubtful--he lives for this stuff).

anyways, it's not really how bad the beats are, because w/ the exception of a few, they're not too horrible. it's just the frequency of the beats/coolers.

enjoy my misery (these all from tonight except for the last one--there were a few other tough ones that i didn't feel like finding).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($21.50)
Hero ($97.55)
CO ($79.85)
Button ($163.45)
SB ($106.40)
BB ($35.20)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, Hero calls $1, 2 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($4) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB bets $1, BB folds, UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $6, SB raises to $21, UTG folds, Hero raises to $96.55, SB calls $75.55.

Turn: ($198.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)

River: ($198.10) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)

Final Pot: $198.10

Results in white below: 
SB has Kc 5h (full house, kings full of fives).
Hero has 3d 3c (full house, threes full of kings).
Outcome: SB wins $198.10. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($49.50)
BB ($87.05)
UTG ($43.15)
Hero ($49.50)
Button ($48.25)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $1, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, SB raises to $14, 1 fold, UTG calls $13, Hero raises to $49.5, SB calls $35.50 (All-In), UTG calls $29.15 (All-In).

Flop: ($142.65) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($142.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($142.65) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: $142.65

Results in white below: 
SB has Qd Th (three of a kind, queens).
UTG has Jc Jd (two pair, queens and jacks).
Hero has Ac As (two pair, aces and queens).
Outcome: SB wins $142.65. 

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
4 folds, Hero raises, BB 3-bets, Hero calls.

Flop: (6 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Turn: (3 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Hero calls.

River: (11 BB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kh Jc (straight, ace high).
BB has Qc Ah (full house, queens full of aces).
Outcome: BB wins 13 BB. 

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ad (full house, aces full of jacks).
Button has Js Jc (four of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 19.25 BB. 

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, MP 3-bets, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero caps, UTG calls, MP calls, SB calls.

Flop: (16 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, MP calls, SB folds, Hero 3-bets, UTG caps, MP calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (14 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets, MP calls, Hero calls.

River: (17 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets, Hero calls, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 20 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Kc Kd (one pair, kings).
UTG has Qs Qh (one pair, queens).
MP has 7d 7s (straight, eight high).
Outcome: MP wins 20 BB. 

NICE FLOP CALL, DOUCHEBAG!!!

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB caps, Button calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB raises, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets, BB folds, Button calls.

River: (11 BB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac Qc (two pair, aces and queens).
Button has 8h Jh (straight, queen high).
Outcome: Button wins 15 BB. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

CO ($75)
Button ($110.70)
Hero ($100)
BB ($97.85)
UTG ($45.35)
MP ($334.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP calls $1, CO raises to $20, 1 fold, Hero raises to $100, 1 fold, MP calls $99, CO calls $55 (All-In).

Flop: ($276) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($276) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($276) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $276

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ac Kh (high card, ace).
MP has 9s As (flush, ace high).
CO has 8h 8c (three of a kind, eights).
Outcome: MP wins $276. 

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($132)
SB ($177.80)
Hero ($100)
UTG ($191.50)
MP ($108)
CO ($109.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to $4, 3 folds, Hero raises to $14, MP calls $10.

Flop: ($28.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP calls $20.

Turn: ($68.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $39, MP raises to $74, Hero calls $27 (All-In).

River: ($208.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $208.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has Ah Ad (two pair, aces and fours).
MP has Ks Kc (full house, kings full of fours).
Outcome: MP wins $208.50. 

and a treat from last session. villain was like 70/40/3 and a complete spew monkey postflop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($80.50)
UTG ($160)
MP ($152.40)
CO ($155.50)
Hero ($185.50)
SB ($107)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero raises to $11, 2 folds, UTG calls $8.

Flop: ($23.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $18, UTG calls $18.

Turn: ($59.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $15, Hero raises to $50, UTG raises to $85, Hero raises to $156.5, UTG calls $46 (All-In).

River: ($347) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $347

Results in white below: 
UTG has Th Jh (straight, ace high).
Hero has Ah Kd (two pair, aces and kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $321.50. Hero wins $25.50.

mediumpimpin · #2 03-17-2007, 05:48 AM

you run like me.

pp262 · #3 03-17-2007, 08:45 AM

I don't play limit but isn't this kind of weak?

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A, J, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Louis Vuitton · #4 03-17-2007, 10:35 AM

does sklanskies even count in minbet?

catcher193 · #5 03-17-2007, 10:47 AM

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I don't play limit but isn't this kind of weak?

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A, J, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

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yeah I don't play LHE but nice B/C.

The Velour Fog · #6 03-17-2007, 10:48 AM

run better?

nickg1532 · #7 03-17-2007, 12:54 PM

[ QUOTE ]
I don't play limit but isn't this kind of weak?

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A, J, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

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not to get into too much strategy but: normally, super weak, yes. i had a read though. this guy was very passive. his pf 3 bet narrowed his range to big pairs. once he raised the turn he has exactly KK or JJ. but he didn't cap the turn, and probably put me on AA at that point (even this guy could recognize i prob. don't have QT b/c of the pf cap). since the river didn't change anything for KK, i think he is less likely to have it when he raises. also, i don't think this guy ever caps the river w/KK, so when i 3 bet i'm always winning 1 when ahead and losing 2 when behind.

meh, it might have been horrible, though.

nickg1532 · #8 03-17-2007, 12:56 PM

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does sklanskies even count in minbet?

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hey there's a few optimal bet hold them hands in there

ludacris · #9 03-17-2007, 01:28 PM

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has As Ad (full house, aces full of jacks).
Button has Js Jc (four of a kind, jacks).
Outcome: Button wins 19.25 BB. 

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wtf raise that river, you have the 2nd nuts.

venom007 · #10 03-17-2007, 01:42 PM

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I don't play limit but isn't this kind of weak?

DOES THIS COUNT AS PWNING SOMEONE??

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. CO posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises, 1 fold, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) A, J, K (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button caps, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, Button calls.

River: (15.25 BB) J (2 players)
Hero bets, Button raises, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 19.25 BB

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not to get into too much strategy but: normally, super weak, yes. i had a read though. this guy was very passive. his pf 3 bet narrowed his range to big pairs. once he raised the turn he has exactly KK or JJ. but he didn't cap the turn, and probably put me on AA at that point (even this guy could recognize i prob. don't have QT b/c of the pf cap). since the river didn't change anything for KK, i think he is less likely to have it when he raises. also, i don't think this guy ever caps the river w/KK, so when i 3 bet i'm always winning 1 when ahead and losing 2 when behind.

meh, it might have been horrible, though.

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lol yes this is pretty terrible-- you have to lose all the minbetaments possible even though you think you're beat in hands like this. Thats why limit is stupid. Although in NL you also lose your money every time but whatever.