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Old 03-16-2007, 10:29 PM
Lash Lash is offline
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Default 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

No reads - <10 hands - Villain multi-tables

Any suggestions?
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SB ($251.15)
BB ($202.40)
UTG ($220.15)
Hero ($203)
CO ($42)
Button ($258.60)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $7</font>, CO calls $7, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $30</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $23, CO folds.

Flop: ($69) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

Turn: ($139) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $70</font>,Hero?
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:40 PM
TheDivineRod TheDivineRod is offline
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Default Re: 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

I would def fold turn, maybe even flop. You are prob only ahead of TT and AK.
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Old 03-16-2007, 10:47 PM
tufat23 tufat23 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

nl200?
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

I don't like calling this preflop without any idea of how this guy plays. You're UTG+1 and he comes back over the top from the SB. You're above the range of a laggish player, but in pretty bad shape against the range of a tag or weak player. Knowing he multitables isn't enough to convince me he's laggish.

On the flop, this is a spot where I'd also make an unusual move. I would just minraise. We know nothing about this player except that he multitables. I think the minraise gets a pretty legitimate reaction from him here since he also knows nothing about us.

Playing without reads sucks.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:10 PM
ACG2x ACG2x is offline
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Default Re: 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

No reads plus there's not much within villan's possible range (I always assume a regular, TAG game unless proven otherwise) that you can beat. Most every hand that even an average player would r/r you PF while OOP the rest of the hand you can't beat here.

A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]-K [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is about the only thing and even then you're flipping. In the absence of reads, muck the flop. No value in calling unless you can be sure if you do there's a reasonable chance villan will check it down which with no reads you don't know.
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Old 03-16-2007, 11:40 PM
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Default nl200 **

Yep meant nl200
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

Folding flop is questionable, but he seems serious about getting your stack in on the turn... Foldage.
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Old 03-17-2007, 12:27 AM
TeddyKGB69 TeddyKGB69 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl JJ - Find a fold? Find a shove?

He has shown an extreme amount of strength throughout the entire hand. I think you are beat here and should fold the turn. Even calling the pre-flop raise is questionable as well. After calling the flop bet you should have asked yourself am I prepared to call a large bet or push all in on the turn.
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