100NL - AK on BTN vs SB

brutalBeater · #1 03-16-2007, 06:11 AM

What to do here without any specific reads/stats?
Should I maybe have checked the turn to control potsize?

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
7 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $142.85
UTG+1: $61.75
MP1: $53.50
CO: $112.10
Hero: $166.05
SB: $192.05
BB: $84

Pre-flop: (7 players) Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
4 folds, Hero raises to $3.5, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($10.5, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls, BB folds.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($26.5, 2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $17, SB raises to $53, Hero ???

Sun Wukong · #2 03-16-2007, 06:35 AM

To be honest I really struggle in these spots, if i check behind i feel i'm losing value from worst aces and giving a free card to the flush draw but if i bet and get c/r'd i feel i have to fold (baluga?).
I'm thinking this is a fold but I'm interested to see what the optimal line is in everyones opinion, check behind the turn or b/f

BingBangBoom · #3 03-16-2007, 07:39 AM

Yah these are the tuff spots...i think a solid player folds AJ out of the blind in a raise...maybe it was suited. AQ would possibly call that bet but i dont know about being that agressive with it post flop. A8 doesnt call but maybe if its suited... also pretty unlikely. I would think JJ or 88 is definately not out of the question. I dont think they are on the flush draw. That would be an unusual play with a flush draw on the turn. All in all I really do struggle with these spots, especially with no reads. I think your facing a weaker ace possibly, and the big reraise on the turn could be to protect his hand if he puts you on a flush draw

BingBangBoom · #4 03-16-2007, 07:41 AM

oops im dumb..i didnt see that he checked the flop..no way i put him on an ace here than...cuz hed bet to protect that ace....hmmmm makes this hand more intresting

GiantBuddha · #5 03-16-2007, 07:46 AM

I check behind here with no reads and let him bluff the river. As played, fold. You're not ahead often against an unknown. You need to know your player and have a little history to find a reason to call here, IMO.

threads13 · #6 03-16-2007, 08:15 AM

Would you say its fair to put this guy on at least two-pair?

davekngs · #7 03-16-2007, 08:42 AM

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Would you say its fair to put this guy on at least two-pair?

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yep

and checking behind on the turn is not an option IMO

nation · #8 03-16-2007, 08:46 AM

huh? check behind is really bad on turn. easy bet and fold to the c/r.

threads13 · #9 03-16-2007, 08:54 AM

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huh? check behind is really bad on turn. easy bet and fold to the c/r.

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Why is checking behind really bad?

Bianculli · #10 03-16-2007, 09:09 AM

I don't think folding to this c/r in position is automatic. I don't mind calling and re-evaluating on river, since there are potential draws and combo draws on the board.