JJ - Overpair - river question

[cuQa]

Hey, didnt have any information about the opponent.

What's your move now? Should I bet or just check behind?
Do you think there is a possibility to get value of a "valuebet" with that board and especially that river at all? If you think there is a chance to get value out of a "valuebet" how much do I have to bet then?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($101.55)
UTG ($105.45)
MP ($102.80)
Hero ($154.80)
Button ($193.50)
SB ($100.70)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $3.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB bets $6.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $18</font>, SB calls $11.

Flop: ($9) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB bets 3$, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises $14</font>, SB calls 11$.

Turn: ($37) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, SB calls $25.

River: ($87) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero ???</font>


thanks for your help..

[sc000t]

No way Im betting this. Only possible hand you could get value from would be a TdXd, missed diamond draw/top pair. I just check behind. Top pair on the flop just hit trips, turn completed a straight draw...not to mention the flop is a possible straight as well.

[iSTRONG]

i check behind as well. No value in a bet on the river.

(p.s.: sometimes you have to value-bet *very* thin in order to balance for a wider range of bluffs in those spots in later hands)

[eisanm]

I check behind. Looks to me like he's on a busted draw or somethign else that won't call the river. I'd take a free showdown and I can't see him calling again with anything that you beat.

Please post your hand on 2+2 instead of linking to it. It makes it easier to read, and you are likely to get more replies as well.

[cuQa]

I'd like to post it on 2+2 but I play on PartyPoker .. and I dont know any converter that doesn't have any problems with viewing the hands correctly

[lordTasse]

bet river

[Bacon Mmmm]

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bet river

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Care to elaborate?

If he bet out on the flop with a FD, he will not call you.
If he bet out on the flop with a 5 (SD), he will not call you.
If he bet out on the flop with a 4 or 6, he will rarely call you.
If he bet out on the flop with a 7, you will lose.
If he flopped a straight or set or 2 pair, you will lose.

There's more that he might hold, but for the most part, there's not much value here.