A flop shove with JJ in a rr pot (400NL)

[Dan Bitel]

Villain is DontDoItBro. Runs at 25/20/4 or so. He's been 3beting quite a bit. Only pot we've played together is he opens UTG, I 3bet from the blinds, he shoves with AK and sucks out on my KK.


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SB ($946.10)
BB ($412.80)
UTG ($327.20)
MP ($460)
Hero ($417.60)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB (poster) raises to $64</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls $50.

Flop: ($136) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $88</font>, Hero calls $417.60 (All-In),

[ski]

real bad

[scorer]

if he has a K he's not folding/

[Dan Bitel]

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if he has a K he's not folding/

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its not a bluff

[intensity]

yeah i really don't like it one bit.

[ski]

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if he has a K he's not folding/

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its not a bluff

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if you call flop he is almost never firing again unless you're beat. You're letting him play perfectly against you here.

[Dan Bitel]

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if he has a K he's not folding/

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its not a bluff

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if you call flop he is almost never firing again unless you're beat. You're letting him play perfectly against you here.

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whats your range for pushing this flop?

[ArturiusX]

Its ok too call the flop ;/

[mbman]

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if he has a K he's not folding/

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its not a bluff

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Dbitel,

Is he really even contemplating calling with worse hands here? Please explain benefits with pushing as compared to just calling and folding to a turnbet? The only one I think of is that he probably folds QQ to the push.

[Novles]

hmm, I think I kinda like it because your hand looks like a bluff, since you wouldn't shove KK and you rarely have AK here, so you might get some hero calls from 77-TT, while protecting your hand against things like AQ/AT or whatever.