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Old 03-13-2007, 09:09 PM
Janabis Janabis is offline
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Default 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

Villain is about 24/14 and hasn't done anything crazy. Can his hand be anything other than an A-high flush here? It should be very obvious to him that I rivered the flush so I can't imagine him bet and 3-betting with anything else. Clearly he wants to go allin.

Party Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $2/$4
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1056.11
Hero: $400
CO: $1198.62
Button: $394
SB: $450
BB: $400

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG+1 with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, Hero calls, 2 folds, SB calls, BB checks.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($16, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets $12</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $24</font>, Hero calls, SB folds, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($88, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($88, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $20</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $60</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $200</font>, Hero?
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:12 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

fowld, should be interesting to hear comments on the flop, I can't tell if I like it or not.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:15 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

Prefer a preflopraise but limping is ok, flop is fine, I prefer a turn bet but nothing very wrong with checking. Raise some more on river, 100 total or so, insta-fold to 3-bet as played.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:17 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

flop is disgusting.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:19 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

Yes flop is gross, and you underrepped your hand on the river. Make it 80-100, fold to 3bet as Hatt said.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:30 PM
soah soah is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

flop play is rather gross which leads you to a bad spot on the river - your raise is pretty tiny yet really there's not much at all you can do there cuz your hand is transparent to all but the most clueless morans and you have pretty much the worst possible flush. Taking bad immediate odds to draw at a very obvious non-nut hand is no goot.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

Id raise to about 80 on the flop, UTGs most likely holdings are KT-KQ and he should fold those almost always.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:32 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

You say flop is gross, I dont think its that bad with position and the gut shot as long as he dont get overentusiastic with caution if the flush comes.

I guess you hate a cold 3-bet so you are advocating just folding the possible 12-outer right away?
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:33 PM
Janabis Janabis is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

The UTG villain caught in the middle was a 70 / 30 maniac, so his minraise on the flop was completely meaningless and could be any two cards. Actually I liked his minraise on the flop because it sweetened the pot and I wanted to play for stacks with him if I hit.
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Old 03-13-2007, 09:39 PM
willw9 willw9 is offline
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Default Re: 400NL - River my little flush and get 3-bet

Misread, didn't see the gutter.

Hatt, I'm not crazy about cold-calling a raise and reraise in any spot, but I guess this is an OK time to do it. With no gutter, you instafold right?
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