100NL - Always felt with KK here?

[Rakshasa]

Feels dumb folding KK for 100BBs in this spot, however my game is rusty and weaktight from a long break so I wasn't too sure what to do
Villian is unknown, not enough hands for stats/reads - but judging from his minraise PF he's prob not world class.

5 handed eff stacks 104BB

UTG folds
CO ($28.88) Limps
BTN folds
SB ($117.80) Minraises to $2
Hero ($104.70) has K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] in the BB and make it $7
CO folds
SB calls

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (pot $15)

SB checks
Hero bets $10
SB calls

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (pot $35)
SB checks
Hero bets $25
SB raises to $50

Hero ? - $62.50 behind

[smellmuth]

lol i shove

[Rakshasa]

How is my line otherwise?

[smellmuth]

pretty standard without reads id bet a little more on the turn.

[fooz]

Definite shove. You are ahead the vast majority of the time against a player that min-raises preflop like that.

He most likely has TP (or JJ, QQ) and will still call.

[Rakshasa]

Thanks. Yeah I figured. I shoved and he called with 66, put me on AK I guess.

Just giving these guys too much credit cause it felt like I was playing my cards face up and the minraise is really gross.

[fooz]

Why bet more on the turn? What's your logic?

I'm thinking if anything, bet a little less. Your goal is to maximize expectation: i.e. maximize the likelihood of the opponent calling with a worse hand considering his likelihood of improving to a better hand. With a bet well over half the pot on the Turn, I think you are seriously discouraging worse hands to continue or bluff you.

[smellmuth]

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Why bet more on the turn? What's your logic?

I'm thinking if anything, bet a little less. Your goal is to maximize expecation: i.e. maximize the likelihood of the opponent calling with a worse hand considering his likelihood of improving to a better hand. With a bet well over half the pot on the Turn, I think you are seriously discouraging worse hands to continue or bluff you.

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overthinking. you have reverse implied odds on a board with many draws. you are trying to make this pot as big as possible as quickly as possible. there are also many payoff hands which will shut down on a bunch of scary river cards, so we want to extract value quickly. in tougher games i would check behind with this hand a lot but at these stakes his flop call range is wide and so will his turn range be. make pot big quick.

[Imrahil]

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Thanks. Yeah I figured. I shoved and he called with 66, put me on AK I guess.

Just giving these guys too much credit cause it felt like I was playing my cards face up and the minraise is really gross.

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Before I read this I was thinking that you should fold as this sit. happened two times to me recently and both times villains had me. But I've just learned to not fold hands against bad players and especially in these situations.

[GrandMelon]

Raise more preflop, shove turn