WTF-River

TheWunderkind · #1 03-13-2007, 02:32 AM

dont know much about this guy but his 38/7 stats over 60 hand sindicate something so i guess this is an easy River call? What if villain was a Tag/taglag

Cryptologic
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
6 players
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Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero raises, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6.5SB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.75BB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, BB calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 11.75BB
CO shows 8s 7s
Hero mucks Jc As

Oink · #2 03-13-2007, 05:39 AM

I have prolly started to fold too much to river raises since I found out I was calling way to lightly.

Anyways I find a fold here. A4 got there and a bunch of backdoor flush draws. Its a pretty raggy flop so dont discount the flush just because its a backdoor. Loose villains peel a LOT on flops like that. Finally slowplayed sets or a picked up set are possible as well.

aargh57 · #3 03-13-2007, 09:46 AM

I think I'm paying off here too.

If he's a TAG I'm thinking that you should probably fold because I don't see a TAG bluff raising on the river here. Of course, I probably don't have the self discipline to actually fold but I think that's the best course of action.

mikeysong · #4 03-13-2007, 09:57 AM

I'd call this river all day long. He most likely doesn't have the flush. A4 is the only semi-realistic hand I can imagine that beats you here.

pmiranda.pt · #5 03-13-2007, 10:06 AM

It's a call, the pot equity and the CO stats justify it, do you are probably beaten by a flush.

I would have check(ed)\call(ed) the river cause of the flush possibility, also you could get caught between a "flush war" between two players.

Oink · #6 03-13-2007, 10:06 AM

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I'd call this river all day long. He most likely doesn't have the flush.

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That is a very dangerous assumption IMO.

aargh57 · #7 03-13-2007, 10:12 AM

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I'd call this river all day long. He most likely doesn't have the flush. A4 is the only semi-realistic hand I can imagine that beats you here.

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What do you think that he's raising with against two opponents if not something better than TPTK? Would he really raise with TPNK, second pair or worse here? Villains in the blind and could easily have picked up two pair on the end. It costs you 1 bet to win 11 if he's B.S.ing so I would still call, but I don't think it's as clear as you.