AA vs 2p2er - the FOS line

cs3 · #1 03-12-2007, 07:58 PM

villain in this hand is a fairly well known 2p2per. he had been playing very snug running about 20/15 at the time. hadnt shown down any bs hands and hadnt really gotten out of line at all.

we dont have too many hands together, but we had a little bit of history in the past. specifically where i played 2nd pair really really strong (and probably fishy) after he showed strength himself, and he folded top pair. so he probably thinks im capable of making crazy/dumb moves, but otherwise sees me as a fairly generic tag who had been builing up a large stack by showing down good hands. he aslo knows im 2p2 as we discussed the previous had via pm.

the table had been playing really aggro, and almost every pot had been raised with many of them being 3-bet PF.


Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $1/$2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $630.80
UTG+1: $300.20
CO: $21.40
Button: $227.45
SB: $546.40
BB: $97.70

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
Hero calls, UTG+1 raises to $10, 4 folds, Hero raises to $34, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($71, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $48, Hero raises all-in $596.8

 thoughts?

Isura · #2 03-12-2007, 08:00 PM

Looks like the super tricky value line.

"the table had been playing really aggro, and almost every pot had been raised with many of them being 3-bet PF."

Really hate PF cause of this. How often are you even open-limping in this game?

Casper05 · #3 03-12-2007, 08:00 PM

last time I did this vs a 2p2er he flipped 33. I'd rather lead/call the flop though.

MasterLJ · #4 03-12-2007, 08:03 PM

I either win a stupid sized pot when they fold, or get shown a set if I get called.

I can see doing this for meta, because I will CRAI on similar boards with AK after similar pre-flop conditions. Also would help if we weren't running this line quite as deep.

Jigsaws · #5 03-12-2007, 08:05 PM

Also see this thread for the other perspective.

cs3 · #6 03-12-2007, 08:06 PM

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Looks like the super tricky value line.

"the table had been playing really aggro, and almost every pot had been raised with many of them being 3-bet PF."

Really hate PF cause of this. How often are you even open-limping in this game?

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i had done it several times actually, and had previoulsy lrr from MP with 89s and taken it down althouhg i dont recall if vilain was at the table at the time or not. probably shouldve added that to the OP but it might not make a difference if villain was not aware of the fact

Isura · #7 03-12-2007, 08:07 PM

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I either win a stupid sized pot when they fold, or get shown a set if I get called.

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> 50bb pots are not small.

ronitonline · #8 03-12-2007, 08:07 PM

I dont think I like this although I get what youre seeing at. I probably just raise, I dont see anything but MAYBE KK calling you that you beat, if he is a thinking player I dont think he will just donk his chips off becuase he believes you are making a play.

cs3 · #9 03-12-2007, 08:08 PM

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Also see this thread for the other perspective.

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lol,
search > me.

J. Stew · #10 03-12-2007, 08:10 PM

i don't think he thinks you're bluffing, shoving your stack in the middle after three-betting pf. from his p.o.v it looks like you have what you have or maybe three jacks. maybe you stack qq here, maybe he folds putting you on one of those two hands, or he has JJ. if he has KK nh you stacked him. it's alright imo, kind of reckless.