pair+flush draw

ValarMorghulis · #1 03-12-2007, 07:30 PM

Stats: UTG=37/14/0.87, BB=17/4/0.68

Both have wierd stats but I haven't seen them get out of line much.

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Hero ($229.05)
BB ($488.65)
UTG ($267.95)
MP ($470)
Button ($564.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $1.
UTG raises to $6, MP calls $6, 1 fold, Hero (poster) calls $5, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($24) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $14, UTG calls $14, MP folds, Hero raises to $70, BB calls $56, UTG calls $267.95 (All-In).

How have I played it so far? Do I call the allin?

MasterLJ · #2 03-12-2007, 07:36 PM

You've played it well so far, call the AI.

SubaruSTiMike · #3 03-12-2007, 07:39 PM

It could be that UTG is drawing to a higher flush, he sure plays like one, or he could have QQ+. I wonder why he would just call the flop and then decide to raise after tehre's so much money in there. I'm sure he couldn't have known that you would have raised so he may be on a draw more than having the set or TP pair? what i'm afraid of is your pair is no good already and your drawing to the 2nd nuts, so...but yeah...what do you think?

J. Stew · #4 03-12-2007, 07:51 PM

I was thinking the same. Maybe AT[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], i don't really see him pushing QT but i dunno. It's not a great board to slowplay a set but i don't think it can be ruled out. Meh maybe he's pushing a smaller fd too, that's a possibility. I think i'd call this.

Edit: just saw nit BB called your c/r, that might change things.

ValarMorghulis · #5 03-12-2007, 08:15 PM

Maybe I should of just called the 14 bet. What worse hand calls my raise, what better hand folds.

After the raise, I pretty much have to call I think. But it's not a great spot.

Maybe I'm being results oriented with this hand. UTG had JJ, BB had Axcc so I was drawing practically dead.

Erik W · #6 03-12-2007, 10:52 PM

I call this flop.
KJ flop will hit someone and UTG calls.
What can he have? A very strong hand or a monster.

zatacka · #7 03-12-2007, 10:55 PM

I dont like calling preflop with QJ oop, but as played i always lead this flop.

RiDiK · #8 03-12-2007, 11:26 PM

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I dont like calling preflop with QJ oop, but as played i always lead this flop.

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yeah i agree w/ this (including that the pf call is marginal although probably not too bad considering raiser doesn't seem good). if you lead and the tight/passive bb raises, you are in a hella difficult spot, but i still think this is the best line.

as played you gotta call.

aislephive · #9 03-12-2007, 11:27 PM

I suck at equity and complex math but I'd call here.

J. Stew · #10 03-12-2007, 11:37 PM

yeah after bb calls your raise i think his range can be narrowed to a set of jacks or sevens since he'd raise pf/push flop with kk and can't have Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], i can't think of what else a nit would call there with. not sure what the pot odds looks exactly like, you have to call 200 more in a 360ish+ pot, and you're like a 30/70 dog to a set. . .