55: Q8o UTG with 4BB on bubble

Van Strummer · #1 03-12-2007, 07:48 AM

If I put this into SNGwiz the push is clearly -$EV (between -0.5 and -1.0) for the ranges I am using.

Is this a spot I need to make this -EV push because I will be in such a bad situation if I fold and don't get a good hand in the BB?

The two small stacks are decent players and I don't expect them to make any big mistakes to get knocked out before me.

PartyPoker $55 Speed Tournament, Big Blind is t600 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

Hero (t2470)
Button (t11120)
SB (t3310)
BB (t3100)

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holy32 · #2 03-12-2007, 08:20 AM

I always wonder if being in the BB next hand with 6xbb or less changes my pushing ranges, especially when 4-handed.
very interested in responses...

Little John · #3 03-12-2007, 08:28 AM

If the blinds are decent as you say that means they will fold K6s when you push. Since you have pretty decent FE and will be posting the BB next hand, I'm pretty sure pushing is correct.

Daleroxxu · #4 03-12-2007, 08:37 AM

damned if you do, damned if you don't !
it's -ev to shove but it's -ev to swallow the blinds and lose your fold equity.

You're in last place and need to do something to get chips, shove now as it's probably the last hand where you have fold equity.

If you fold then the next hand when you're in the BB, you're not getting walked and the next again hand you would have 1800 chips in the SB against the BB with >11K... so he can easily call with anything for the extra 1200 if you get the chance to shove.