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Old 03-11-2007, 12:34 PM
Vee Quiva Vee Quiva is offline
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Default QQ with bad board, how did I do?

FullTiltPoker Game #1956843684: Table Lone Cedar (6 max) - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:17:20 ET - 2007/03/09
Seat 1: PipeDream06 ($98.70)
Seat 2: Hero ($219.15)
Seat 3: p_lu2002 ($34.95)
Seat 4: Bakane ($333.90)
Seat 5: big_cec_dawg ($289.05)
Seat 6: katzman53 ($99.50)
Hero posts the small blind of $0.50
p_lu2002 posts the big blind of $1
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Bakane folds
big_cec_dawg calls $1
katzman53 calls $1
PipeDream06 folds
Hero raises to $5
p_lu2002 folds
big_cec_dawg calls $4
katzman53 calls $4
*** FLOP *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]
Hero bets $16
big_cec_dawg calls $16
katzman53 folds
*** TURN *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]]

Hero checks
big_cec_dawg checks
*** RIVER *** [5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]] [9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]]
Hero checks
big_cec_dawg bets $35
Hero ????
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:42 PM
Djeorge Djeorge is offline
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Default Re: QQ with bad board, how did I do?

It's close but i think I'm calling here and expecting villain to show us a bluff quite a lot. Given the size of the bet this is usually either a really good hand or a bluff and not a value bet by AJ type hands. He isn't going to check the turn much with the flush IMO and KQ is unlikely to call the flop so I'm inclined to call here.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: QQ with bad board, how did I do?

great spot to b/f turn.
as played, I block river
as played, i call
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:01 PM
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Default Re: QQ with bad board, how did I do?

If we b/f turn we c/f river?
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:51 PM
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If we b/f turn we c/f river?

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no, I would usually lead again.
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Old 03-11-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: QQ with bad board, how did I do?

You induced a bluff/vb from a J. Now call.
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:04 PM
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If we b/f turn we c/f river?

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no, I would usually lead again.

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Do you always use this line with an overpair?
It seems awful aggressive with this board texture.
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Old 03-11-2007, 02:22 PM
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If we b/f turn we c/f river?

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no, I would usually lead again.

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Do you always use this line with an overpair?
It seems awful aggressive with this board texture.

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Almost always when OOP. I'm way more concerned about getting max-value here than anything else.
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Old 03-11-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: QQ with bad board, how did I do?

I quite like hero's line here - provided he called the river.

I'm not too keen on betting the turn because I think we want to keep the pot small - not build it.

B/f the river must also be considered.
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: QQ with bad board, how did I do?

This is a terrible spot to b/f turn because we have the Qs.
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