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Old 03-10-2007, 11:50 PM
LazyFool526 LazyFool526 is offline
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Default TT Overplay?

Villian is 41/9 (after 23 hands). No other reads.

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $1/$2
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero 3-bets</font>, 2 folds, MP1 calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.5SB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">MP1 bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, MP1 calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5.75BB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7.75BB, 2 players)
MP1 checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, MP1 calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.75BB

Things like this happen very often with me. I think its a leak in my game, where i bet or raise out with MP, and then get c/c the rest of the way. I think my PF RR was also questionable. Opinions?
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Old 03-10-2007, 11:57 PM
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Default Re: TT Overplay?

I think the Pre-flop RR is ok. I usually just call but i can't see anything horribly wrong with 3-betting.

On the flop I put villain on a pair, after the turn (with no reads) you have to think its a J so check behind on the river IMO.
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:00 AM
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coldcalling is a no-no... its def a raise/fold issue
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Old 03-11-2007, 12:04 AM
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Default Re: TT Overplay?

I play it the same as OP but check behind on the river
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Old 03-11-2007, 04:10 AM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: TT Overplay?

coldcall preflop is fine, so is 3bet; 3bet is obv standard. fold never

the rest of the hand is fine... sometimes call flop/raise turn to mix it up.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:05 AM
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Explain why a CC would be fine? would it be fine with 77-99 also? I have had a question with this and have folded 22-99 to a raise lately because I dont feel it is worth a 3 bet, but i feel that TT is.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:25 AM
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Explain why a CC would be fine? would it be fine with 77-99 also? I have had a question with this and have folded 22-99 to a raise lately because I dont feel it is worth a 3 bet, but i feel that TT is.

[/ QUOTE ]I think the standard here is to reraise TT. We have more than 50% equity against his range and we have position. But it's quite close in value. It's like 50.7% so we are not missing much value by coldcalling. But I think reraising is definitely better here.

You can coldcall 99-77 only if you are sure that the pot will be multiway. You need to have at least 3 players in the pot before you to coldcall. With 66-22 you need 4+ players to coldcall.

Against a single player whose pfr is 13+ you can also start to reraise 99. At least according to my pokerstove calculations.
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Old 03-11-2007, 05:43 AM
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this hand is fine on every street. nh.
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Old 03-11-2007, 06:10 AM
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this hand is fine on every street. nh.

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Old 03-11-2007, 08:38 AM
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I like the river bet, I think based on the hand you are against 77 or 99.
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