Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Medium Stakes
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 03-10-2007, 11:33 PM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream
Posts: 3,648
Default probably not even worth posting

Lost the HH, but think I remember it.

Villain is DJ Sensei, who I have at like 23/18

~1500 stacks, 5/10

DJ opens to $36 in EP, folds to me and I raise to $130 on CO with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], DJ calls.

Flop ($275) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

DJ leads for ~$175 (maybe he can chime in with the actual flop & bet size)

I have like $1300 behind


My thoughts:
-AK is probably not in his range
-Maybe a tricky AA
-Bigger diamonds?
-Set
-Missed pp/air
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 03-10-2007, 11:35 PM
ICE TREY ICE TREY is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 234
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

raise the pot.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-10-2007, 11:36 PM
restrikt restrikt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 1,312
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

Raise.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-11-2007, 12:59 AM
spino1i spino1i is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: im a tagfish that always folds
Posts: 2,429
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

Make a big nasty raise. Could be some sort of bluff/blocking bet.

I assume AK is not in his range because he 4-bet pushes it pre-flop?
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-11-2007, 01:25 AM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream
Posts: 3,648
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

[ QUOTE ]
I assume AK is not in his range because he 4-bet pushes it pre-flop?

[/ QUOTE ]

I assume he is 4-bet/folding this agaisnt me 99% of the time.

Altough, he said on some other thread today he didn't thinking calling in that spot was awful, but at the time I discounted AK.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-11-2007, 01:36 AM
DMACM DMACM is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: The Singularity is Near
Posts: 1,052
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

if his range is what u describe i think you need to just call.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-11-2007, 01:42 AM
Hoopster81 Hoopster81 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: between the click of the light and the start of the dream
Posts: 3,648
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

[ QUOTE ]
if his range is what u describe i think you need to just call.

[/ QUOTE ]

With the flop being K high, I think this pushes it closer to call compared to like a T-high flop. QQ/JJ are in his range here I think, and I could put him in a tough spot with a Txx flop.

I just don't know what sort of donking ranges you expect to see here on this flop vs. a player like this.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-11-2007, 06:16 AM
herbertdotcom herbertdotcom is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: bombs get wrapped in ribbons.
Posts: 38
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

there's more that i'd like to know about how you two have been playing, but i like a call here for a few reasons:

1) he raises in ep, and you 3bet anyway. in his eyes, your 3betting range is probably a bit narrower here than as a blind v. a button steal (i do realize that u happen to have 76s here.)

2) he leads the flop anyway. i think that he thinks that you raise this bet very often (sometimes w/ missed hands, but given the preflop action here, in this particular spot often w/ hands that wont fold)

3) stack sizes.

i put him on a set putting you on a big hand, realizing that you may get away from a sizable checkraise with these stacks, and will also sometimes bluff at his awkward lead.

one exception is if he has been donking your 3bet pots regularly, and you think that he thinks that you are scared to play big pots, then u should raise/call.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-11-2007, 06:59 AM
Moonshine Moonshine is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: PM me for FT monies
Posts: 2,037
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

not raising here would be criminal, since the majority of his range is made up of hands that probably have to make a pretty heroic call.

nobody leads a monster set here because you never get raised unless your opponent flops some weird draw they dont want to flat call with. this line is sick if you have a medium strength KQ type hand and you think you're opponent is aggro but missed the flop and you want to STACK him in style
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 03-11-2007, 07:44 AM
DJ Sensei DJ Sensei is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: pushing it to the limit
Posts: 7,419
Default Re: probably not even worth posting

my actions in the hand were very much dictated by stack size, although you probably couldn't know that when staring down the barrel of my donkbet. hence you'd have no idea what it meant.

I'm also trying to think of the ratio within my donking range of hands that would either shove or fold against a raise. probably too much information, but i think it might be skewed towards the former.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.