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Old 03-10-2007, 06:16 PM
mayesie mayesie is offline
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Default $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

Hi All,
There are 5 players left (none of which are really short), so I'm trying to determine the importance of bubble strategy.

The CO is super-tight (9/6 after 33 hands); the SB not-so-much (24/12 after 33 hands):

CO Range: 66+,ATo+,A9s+,KJs+,KJo+
SB Range: 55+,AT+,KQ+ (not sure if he'd make a move w/ something less if he thinks he has fold-equity)

On the bubble, I know this is an easy fold. I'd like feedback on how my strategy might change w/ 5 players remaining (given the stack-sizes).

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) internettexasholdem.com

SB (t3535)
Hero (t1425)
UTG (t3470)
MP (t1635)
Button (t3435)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to t400</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t3535</font>, Hero ???
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:22 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

I'd call. The CO may fold and you are ahead of SB's range with a huge overlay. Even if the CO comes along, you are still in decent shape.
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

Call.
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Old 03-10-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

I call. I'm too short. I'll fold AQ but not AK.
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:11 PM
dipstikdave dipstikdave is offline
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

if co is this tight9/6 after 33 hands),then this range:66+,ATo+,A9s+,KJs+,KJo+, has to be wrong. if i thought co would fold, i'd call. i think he's committed himself, and going by his stats i'd say he has AQ+,99+. this is a fold for me. calling JJ+.
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:14 PM
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

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if co is this tight9/6 after 33 hands),then this range:66+,ATo+,A9s+,KJs+,KJo+, has to be wrong. if i thought co would fold, i'd call. i think he's committed himself, and going by his stats i'd say he has AQ+,99+. this is a fold for me. calling JJ+.

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Please keep in-mind that my assignment of CO's hand range is a best-guess (afterall, 33 hands isn't much to go on). I think your range is far too tight, as it doesn't account for the fact that he could easily have hit a dry run of cards.
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Old 03-10-2007, 07:20 PM
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

yeah, it's probly somewhere in between, also sb could be tighter than his stats suggest. either way with no fe i'm folding.
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Old 03-10-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: $16 Turbo: Facing a raise & shove w/ AK

Sb ranges gets tighter after he raises CO. CO 4xbb raises from my experience usually screams AA-JJ. Also, you are BBprobably sharing outs somewhere. You still will have 12-13 if you fold. Pick a better spot. Fold.
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