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Old 03-10-2007, 12:13 PM
martybonus martybonus is offline
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Default Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

Lovin' the bodog right now. This table had about 4 tight players who PFRs all meant business, 1 tight player with a wide PFR range, and the rest were loose-passives.

Villain in this hand is new to the table.


Bodog .50/1.00

Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
1 fold , UTG+1 calls, 1 fold , MP calls, 2 folds , <font color="red"> hero raises </font>, BB folds , <font color="red"> UTG+1 3bets</font>, MP folds .

FLOP (8 SB)
2 players
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<font color="red"> hero bets </font>, villain calls.

This is bad in retrospect, isn't it?. What is villain 3betting with PF that I have beat here?

In my defense, I did bet with the intent to fold here if raised.


TURN (5BB)
2 players
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<font color="red"> hero bets </font>, villain calls

what do I take away from his call on the flop? Sure seemed like whiffed AK-AJ...
Not sure this bet was okay at all.

RIVER (7BB)
2 players
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<font color="red"> hero bets </font>...

Was firing every street spew here? Especially once the 3rd flush card fell...?

Or as it correct to bet out every street given that villain showed no aggression whatsoever after the flop? Even passive villains tend to bet/raise an overpair, even on a semi-coordinated flop, so I figured I was good, but perhaps he might have been being passive with JJ...?

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Old 03-10-2007, 12:27 PM
bozlax bozlax is offline
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

Did you have QQ or TT? It makes a difference.

Your line is fine. You can't go into WA/WB just because he 3jacked pf, but you should fold to a raise on any street...maybe not the river...yeah, I'd call the raise on the river from an unknown, from any of your known villans it'd be a fold.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

Marty,

I think you should e-mail Stars support, it seems your QQ has mysteriously morphed into TT?

P.S. This is fine. So is check-calling every street.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

I like it.

I bet to make sure he calls down with UI AK, but I'm ready to fold to a raise on any street.
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Old 03-10-2007, 12:52 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

DrModern, does Stars run Bodog now?
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:12 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

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DrModern, does Stars run Bodog now?

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No, I just assume that most problems are fixable through e-mailing Stars support. For instance last week I was having all these girl troubles, but then I e-mailed Lee Jones and was like "Hey, wtf is the deal?" and he wrote back and said "Don't even [censored]' worry about it, and read my book Winning Low Limit Hold 'em."
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Old 03-10-2007, 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

zomg!

yeah, i'm an idiot.

see, i had two very similar hands. one was QQ, one was TT.

this hand was reported correctly. Lee jones helped me!

I'm assuming this line would be a no-brainer with QQ.

sorry for the confusion, thanks for the advice [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 03-10-2007, 03:28 PM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

Why didn't you c/r the flop, take it from there? After he just calls your donk, betting turn and, likely, river is good.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

not surprisingly, i also want to c/r the flop.

the c/c down line is fine. donking the flop is absolutely terrible.
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Old 03-10-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Not sure I like this turn line - QQ

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Villain in this hand is new to the table.

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FLOP (8 SB)
2 players
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<font color="red"> hero bets </font>, villain calls.

This is bad in retrospect, isn't it?. What is villain 3betting with PF that I have beat here?

In my defense, I did bet with the intent to fold here if raised.

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