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Old 03-09-2007, 10:55 AM
mastin1 mastin1 is offline
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Default 40/80 Turn line check...

BB is decent player no real reads or notes... Button = very trick Lag, solid player

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $40/80
3 players
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Pre-flop: (3 players) Hero is SB with Ah; Qs;
Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button caps, Hero calls, BB calls.


Flop: Ad; Qh; 4h; (12SB, 3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button raises, Hero 3-bets, BB calls, Button caps, Hero calls, BB calls.


Turn: 6h; (12BB, 3 players)
Hero bets, BB calls, Button raises, Hero calls (?), BB calls.


River: Js; (18BB, 3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, Button checks.


Results:
Final pot: 18BB
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:12 PM
william288 william288 is offline
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

i will c/c turn.

giving a free card is not a risk since we have ah.

if we are ahead, villian is drawing thin, likely 3 outs.

if we are behind, save us 1bb.
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Old 03-09-2007, 12:22 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

If the BTN is solid and the BB is decent, I'm not betting the turn on that turn card after that flop action.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:28 PM
ssmallz ssmallz is offline
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

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If the BTN is solid and the BB is decent, I'm not betting the turn on that turn card after that flop action.

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Really? You don't think button ever has AK there? Why should we be checking the turn? Theres only one combination of AA and QQ out there that we're behind. There's a good chance villain has AQ here also and since we're 3 way, I want to get as much action from the other guy as I can. If villain has AK betting the turn is still good.

Once button raises the turn again, its pretty safe to say you're likely splitting at best. I like way the whole hand played and I c/c the river if he bets.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:34 PM
cdlarmore cdlarmore is offline
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

I play same exact way, the only thing you can possibly be fearing is AA or QQ which we see soooo seldomly that you need to have mubs to slow down especially given read.... I love the turn, I expect to see AK quite a bit here, maybe even A4s, hes a tricky lag remember...
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:35 PM
ILOVEPOKER929 ILOVEPOKER929 is offline
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

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If the BTN is solid and the BB is decent, I'm not betting the turn on that turn card after that flop action.

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Really? You don't think button ever has AK there? Why should we be checking the turn? Theres only one combination of AA and QQ out there that we're behind. There's a good chance villain has AQ here also and since we're 3 way, I want to get as much action from the other guy as I can. If villain has AK betting the turn is still good.


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If the villain has AK, He's betting the turn 100% of the time when checked to. This is one of key reasons I'm not betting this turn.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:42 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

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If the BTN is solid and the BB is decent, I'm not betting the turn on that turn card after that flop action.

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Really? You don't think button ever has AK there? Why should we be checking the turn? Theres only one combination of AA and QQ out there that we're behind. There's a good chance villain has AQ here also and since we're 3 way, I want to get as much action from the other guy as I can. If villain has AK betting the turn is still good.


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If the villain has AK, He's betting the turn 100% of the time when checked to. This is one of key reasons I'm not betting this turn.

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Old 03-09-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: 40/80 Turn line check...

Yes, definitely check the turn. Seems unlikely btn would cap AK, i think his/her range weighs more heavily towards AA/QQ/flush draw. Since the flush came, I feel you are easily behind over 50%.

Also, AK bets the turn anyway so 1 bet will go in like someone said.
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