$60: 88 bubble stop and go

darinvg · #1 03-09-2007, 09:22 AM

Button is raising fairly wide here. Stop and go?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t3605)
Button (t5405)
SB (t2080)
Hero (t2410)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
CO folds, Button raises to t1200, SB folds, Hero calls t800 and pushes any flop

Luisgallo · #2 03-09-2007, 09:32 AM

It is just a risky play on the bubble which I doubt is going to pay you more then just pushing.

IMO if you decide to play just push.

kbar13 · #3 03-09-2007, 10:08 AM

I just push pre-flop. With more chips, like another BB, I might be inclined to stop and go.

Crosby · #4 03-09-2007, 10:18 AM

First thing that seems clear is that in general we need to get the money in one way or another. If he's insanely tight we get destroyed of course. If he pushes what he should, we make about as much as we lose if he pushes too tight, and tactically I think we want to get money in.

Moving on to your question. It interests me that he chose to raise to 1200 rather than making a very standard open push. Of course he might just always robotically raise to 3x, but had he been varying his raise sizes? I ask because the only relevant difference is that he is allowing you to make this play. If he is a thinking player, that would lead me to believe that you could make a read that his range is tight enough to just fold. Or perhaps he thinks it increases his fold equity and he's calling anything he raised with postflop anyway.

In any case, if you are going to play which I almost always would, I would suggest pushing.

Pudge714 · #5 03-09-2007, 10:27 AM

SnG>Push, but it isn't necessarily better than folding.

Little John · #6 03-09-2007, 10:27 AM

I'd just push preflop. Stacks sizes are going to be really nice once this guy doubles you up.

Dan. · #7 03-09-2007, 11:42 AM

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SnG>Push, but it isn't necessarily better than folding.

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Agreed.

Kibby · #8 03-09-2007, 12:42 PM

I'm a lazy aggressive guy here. I fold but cry about it a little.

citanul · #9 03-09-2007, 01:30 PM

Just pushing preflop is obviously an outright mistake.

As for the hand, check what ICM says. If it says it's a good call if button had shoved preflop, then stop and go. If calling would be -ev, it's unlikely that the stop and go adds enough value to make it +ev.

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fluorescenthippo · #10 03-09-2007, 02:18 PM

looks like a perfect stop for a spot and go