Which ones did I win? 4 x $400NL hands

Dan Bitel · #1 03-08-2007, 01:21 PM

Not sure if I should post this in SSNL or MSNL, but decided to post it here and see how it goes. These are 4 hands I played in teh last few days. Some I won, Some I lost. I want you to tell me what ones I won and why. And also tell me what lines you like, and how I could/should play them differently.

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Hand1:

Villain here is Sonuvubitch. He's a tough reg, runs at 19/16/3 or so. We don't really have much history:

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Hero ($396)
BB ($587.30)
UTG ($394)
MP ($867.10)
CO ($381)
Button ($390)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $2.
4 folds, Hero (poster) raises to $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($32) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $22, BB calls $22.

Turn: ($76) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $55, Hero calls $55.

River: ($186) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $150, Hero calls $150.

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Hand 2:

Villain here is CeroAngelo. Not really seen too much of him, so don't know if he's a reg or not. His stats are 28/17/3 and again, not really much history. I thin maybe 1 or 2 3bets as you'd expect, but pretty standard stuff

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BB ($504.10)
UTG ($416.40)
MP ($230.95)
Hero ($504.50)
Button ($631.60)
SB ($90.30)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, MP calls $4, Hero raises to $20, Button calls $20, 2 folds, MP folds.

Flop: ($50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $34, Button calls $34.

Turn: ($118) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $90, Hero calls $90.

River: ($298) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $310, Hero calls $310.

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Hand3:

This guy is a buddylisted fish. A few hands ago I raise pre with 45s and he calls in BB. Flop is like 6TQr, he donks for like $12, I raise, he calls. Turn is 7o, he leads for $20, I call. River is 3. He c/c a 3/4 bet and loses with Q2o!!! His stats are 40/18/2

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Hero ($600.50)
CO ($416)
Button ($398.90)
SB ($555.88)
BB ($396)
UTG ($410)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
1 fold, Hero raises to $16, 2 folds, SB (poster) calls $14, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($48) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB bets $12, BB calls $12, Hero raises to $72, SB calls $60, BB folds.

Turn: ($204) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $140, SB calls $140.

River: ($484) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB calls $553.88 (All-In), Hero calls $327.88.

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Hand 4:

This one is also vs a player with fishy stats, but no history with him. His stats are 43/12/1

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SB ($522.20)
BB ($441)
UTG ($400)
MP ($929.90)
CO ($236.70)
Hero ($412.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
3 folds, Hero raises to $16, 1 fold, BB calls $12.

Flop: ($34) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $24, BB calls $24.

Turn: ($82) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $52, Hero calls $52.

River: ($186) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $80, Hero calls $80.

thac · #2 03-08-2007, 01:27 PM

Hand 1 - Win against an Axd hand, there's so many draws and none of them hit, I'd be inclined to say you won.

Hand 2 - Lose to AT or 44, I don't think you're losing to a better ace, but AT plays this the same way.

Hand 3 - Lose to JT (possibly hearts?), difference between this and the other hand you posted about him is that this time he is leading river.. kinda scary for a station.

Hand 4 - Win against some random bluff or split against a smaller ace. I dunno, seems pretty standard.

tannenj · #3 03-08-2007, 01:34 PM

1. you won. he'd 3bet pre with AK. KQ is possible i guess. he'd raise flop with a set or two pair.

2. you won. again, AQ and AK reraise pre. AT and 44 are possible, meh.

3. you lost. he rivered a flush or a straight.

4. you lost. guys like this can show up with a better ace here.

Imrahil · #4 03-08-2007, 01:37 PM

Won
Lost
Won
Lost

True · #5 03-08-2007, 01:42 PM

might lose, definitely lose, probably lose but might win, probably lose but might win.

Panthro · #6 03-08-2007, 01:46 PM

1) won, picked off a bluff from diamonds(he'd probably raise the flop?) or some random trash.

2) you won, sik call.

3) lost. Played fine. Cooler. Although if he's a fish, AK/KQ is a definate possiblilty.

4) you lost. I call turn and fold river FWIW.

Novles · #7 03-08-2007, 01:48 PM

I think it's more important to say why the call is good in each hand, so that's what I'll try to do.

Hand 1: blind battle, huge range, missed draws, I'd expect a small vb with a king when all the draws missed, etc. I like the line, I'd bet a bet more on the flop, but that's because I'll bet closer to the $26-$28 with everything in this spot. I expect to be good around 50%, so obv the call is good.

Hand 2: hmm tougher, could go either way, but looks like you're only losing to AQ/AT, maybe 44. Have you seen him overbet before? Flip a coin if not.

Hand 3: His range is soo huge, you can't fold, but I'd raise more on the flop since we are multiway, we are slightly deeper than 100bb, and fish has already shown that he'll b/c the flop.

Hand 4: I'd expect to be good not much more than 1 out of 4 at most, so call if you feel like calling, fold if you feel like folding, I think it's close either way. Line looks good.

Grunch · #8 03-08-2007, 01:50 PM

Hand 1 is actually very interesting to me, there's a lot to think about vs a tough regular. Does he bluff a busted flush? Probably sometimes. Does he coldcall AK preflop? Probably sometimes. If I knew this guy at all it would be easier. I'm gonna just guess that he had the King however, because everyone else is saying you won that hand. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Hand 2 I think you should have lost (so in fact you probably won?). I'm curious why you called the river. I would have folded for sure. Although again, I don't know these opponents.

Hand 3 I think you lost to a runner-runner. I can't blame you for calling the river, but he doesn't seem to have a read on him that he would make this river bet with a bluff, so i'm not sure if it's a good call.

Hand 4 I can go either way won/lost. He could easilky have the flush, or he could easiily be making very weak bluffs. IMO well played again.

Imrahil · #9 03-08-2007, 01:52 PM

I think in hand 2 villain never does this floating a PP. I don't think he'd play AK or AQ like this. It's either a complete float bluff putting you on QQ or KK or he has AT, 44 or TT.

dd323 · #10 03-08-2007, 02:04 PM

Hand1: You won, I think he most likely has a pocket-pair or a T, and decides to turn them into a bluff, also in his range that beat you are hands like KQ and sets, but I think KQ and the like are discounted, because he re-pops you alot with hands like that in a Blind vs Blind situation and position. I think I like this line.

Hand 2: I don't like your line here because it turns it into such a guessing game unless you have a read that he bluffs too much, and you are committed to calling down no matter what (it would probably not be a bad line against me [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]) As it is, I think its 50/50 that you won or lost this, it is really villian dependant, and I have never played against him.

Hand 3: I think you lost this one, but I would pay him off anyway. I think call, call, open push is always for value from a fish, just not sure if he flopped the nuts, if he has Acxc or if he made 2 pair and thinks he has the nuts.

Hand 4: I think this is bad line against this guy. I think he has a flush, he only has an af of 1 (although he plays a ton of hands) and if he is bluffing, I doubt he follows through on the riuver with the flush out there, and I would probably call the turn and fold the river.