Preflop live: QQ in SB

badhandoop · #1 03-08-2007, 10:27 AM

This may be very basic, but I wanted to get some feedback. Standard loose fullring 10-20 live with 3 tricky players, 3 LPA fish, 2 TAGs.

2 tricky players limp, 2 fish limp, TAG limps on button. I'm in SB with QQ.

My line was to raise. Afterward, TAG who I'm friendly with comments on how it's a marginally bad play since I'm advertising my hand to tricky players and bloating a pot for fish to draw to.

What's your line here? I play this generally 2 ways.

- Raise preflop and cbet most flops unless both A and K come up.
- Call preflop and C/R a J-lower flop.

Assuming the right play is to raise here, how small of a PP do I pop with in the SB?

Hass · #2 03-08-2007, 10:42 AM

It is correct to raise here, and I don't think it is close to marginal, you are way ahead here... like always.

I bet every flop except for maybe 5s6s7s when my Q's are red, or the like.

I think 99 is as about small of a PP I raise from the SB with this many limpers

Yads · #3 03-08-2007, 11:53 AM

Wow that's some bad advice. Although typical for live players. Your equity here is so huge that collecting another bet from everyone even though you're bloating the pot is 100% correct. Please take this to the SS forum.

blindside · #4 03-08-2007, 12:38 PM

i wish i could advertise AA every hand...

in all seriousness i've seen folks who do this,limp in the sb or check in the bb with a big hand and i still don't get it...

just play poker and be prepared to get sucked out on...

jba · #5 03-08-2007, 12:39 PM

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Wow that's some bad advice.

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badhandoop · #6 03-08-2007, 03:34 PM

Yeah, when I was explaining my line, that was my reasoning. Get that money in while I've got the best hand. If the flop kills me I can dump my hand, but otherwise I pick up all those extra bets. Seemed really basic to me, but I wasn't absolutely sure.

Brad1970 · #7 03-08-2007, 03:54 PM

You played it right. Sounds like your TAG friend wanted to see a cheap flop but with Q's in the SB....I don't think so.

I somewhat agree with him on the "advertising your hand" bit but that would depend on your image & how perceptive your opponents are.

Hoi Polloi · #8 03-08-2007, 04:13 PM

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You played it right. Sounds like your TAG friend wanted to see a cheap flop but with Q's in the SB....I don't think so.

I somewhat agree with him on the "advertising your hand" bit but that would depend on your image & how perceptive your opponents are.

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Advertising your big pair with all these limpers is not necessarily a bad thing. Collect the bets and then collect on your fold equity.

HOWMANY · #9 03-08-2007, 06:41 PM

You should mentally thank the TAG for him informing you he's a live nitfish.

Brad1970 · #10 03-08-2007, 06:49 PM

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You played it right. Sounds like your TAG friend wanted to see a cheap flop but with Q's in the SB....I don't think so.

I somewhat agree with him on the "advertising your hand" bit but that would depend on your image & how perceptive your opponents are.

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Advertising your big pair with all these limpers is not necessarily a bad thing. Collect the bets and then collect on your fold equity.

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I know it's not a bad thing. Never said it was. I was just agreeing that his hand would be clear to a thinking player. He could definitely capitalize on that later.