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Old 03-07-2007, 07:27 AM
BrassMonkey BrassMonkey is offline
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Default What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

I was just looking through my 3/6 six max stats, and think that my BB won per hand from the Big Blind might be kind of lousy. Does -.23 suck, or what? My sample size is small (14,000 hands), but it could be that I defend too liberally from the big blind (folded 45.65%). Am I probably right in my assessment?

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Old 03-07-2007, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

I think 14k hands is enough to get a decent estimate and -.23 is kind of bad. I don't think you need to be defending that light at 3/6 unless you're playing in some tough games and if that is the case, you should probably practice better game selection.

Over the last 30k hands, my BB won/hand is -.13 and I'm folding about 53% of the time.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

-.23BB is kind of bad.

I saw pretty good people lose as little as -.12BB

if you fold BB to steal 46% this a a low number. must TAGs fold more. some fold up to 65%.

currently the some of the best players at stars low limits lose between .17 and .20 BB out fo the BB and the fold between 58%-62% to a steal.
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Old 03-07-2007, 08:54 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

Interesting post. Is it possible to know also the results for other positions?
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

player1 (40k hands)
SB -0.02
BB -0.21
UTG .12
MP .12
CO .09
BU .12

player2 (12k hands)
SB -.1
BB -.16
UTG .06
MP .07
CO .07
BU .17

(based on stars low limit, feb 2006)

here are some figures out of the famous 6max PDF report, where "BugsBunny" talks about his stats:
5-10$ 30k hands
SB -.04
BB -.15
UTG .1
MP .04
CO .14
BU .13
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:23 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

Thanks Timok
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Old 03-07-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

LOL I fold my BB to steal only 34%. I guess I just hate to fold it. Probably tightening up some would help.
anyway my position stats are:
sb: -.06
BB: -.16
UTG: .09
UTG+1: .11
CO: .10
BU: .15

I'm not sure why mu UTG+1 number is better than cutoff. Maybe I'm stealing a little too lightly from CO or maybe it's just normal variance.

I've seen people with better BB #'s than mine so I imagine tighter is probably better but for my own table image I don't want to make people too comfortable stealing my blinds.
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:04 AM
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

nice.

your BB/100 must be at about 3.

where/what limit do you play?
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Old 03-07-2007, 10:21 AM
djmeehan djmeehan is offline
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

yeah about 3BB/100. I play mostly 2/4 and 3/6 but I've been feeling like maybe I should get out of my comfort zone and play more 5/10. I usually play where there's value or fish which for me means pokerstars(fish) and Absolute (value). Oddly I average over 3bb/100 at 3/6 and under at 2/4 but it may be the sample size. (I only have about 50K hands in pokertracker at this point.)
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:15 PM
Apanage Apanage is offline
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Default Re: What is a \"Good\" BB won per hand from the Big Blind

Generally speaking. You should play more passively postflop from BB.
I like to play tighter in BB defence but it does not have a huge impact on your BB/100 hands if you have 45% or 65% in BB defence as long as you play reasonable postflop OOP. If you play bad you should tighten up until you have a better BB/100 figure over a medium large sample (30-40k)




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