100NL: AKo vs 2p2er Lajollashores

dp13368 · #1 03-06-2007, 08:46 PM

Lajolla normally plays 200 and 400nl and has moved down for some reason, so I figure he may be on a downswing and has tightened up his game. This means nothing really, but it came into my thought process.

He is 23/18/3.5 and a relatively solid winner over a pretty big sample. How bad is 4bet shoving PF here?

Thoughts on flop? I was thinking bet/fold but I just don't see what I beat...

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: $104.65
UTG+1: $54.65
CO: $99.50
Button: $152.90
SB: $278.30
BB: $145.90

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
Hero raises to $4, UTG+1 folds, CO calls, Button raises to $17.5, 2 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($54, 3 players)
Hero checks, CO checks, Button bets $54

cassette · #2 03-06-2007, 08:50 PM

Think you have to push preflop. AK doesn't like multiway pots and does like to see 5 cards.

As played c/c flop seems best.

shpanko · #3 03-06-2007, 08:51 PM

Dump it pf or 4-bet shove. No reason to play this OOP. As played fold. You're destroyed or tying

Dan Bitel · #4 03-06-2007, 08:51 PM

I 4bet pre

As played, EASY check/fold

dp13368 · #5 03-06-2007, 08:56 PM

Can I 4bet and fold to a push pre, or just 4bet shove?

rockusteady · #6 03-06-2007, 08:56 PM

I dont know lajolla, but if he is as good as you say he is, I like a shove PF.
What is your image? I feel like a lot of good players will try a squeeze play here and so are 3betting light, in which case a shove is even better. but it depends on your image.

his flop bet is really suspect. A pot sized bet from a good player in a RR pot looks super shady. it could easily be 10-10, QQ or AA. KQ seems less likely.
i dont know what to do. Your FE is shot to hell too. You are probably beat.

I just shove PF.

orange · #7 03-06-2007, 08:56 PM

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Can I 4bet and fold to a push pre?

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no

MasterLJ · #8 03-06-2007, 09:00 PM

He moved down because I pwn him.

I shove pre.

dd323 · #9 03-06-2007, 09:03 PM

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Can I 4bet and fold to a push pre, or just 4bet shove?

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If you 4 bet to a resonable amount and he flipped over KK and pushed, you would still be getting almost the odds to call. The only reason to 4-bet and not push is if you think it gives you more fold equity from JJ/QQ.

ajmargarine · #10 03-06-2007, 09:04 PM

shove or fold pre. I don't think lsj is 2p2. Maybe an occasional lurker.