JTdd against SobraBoy, walk me through this

Patrio · #1 03-06-2007, 08:40 AM

Villian is sobraboy who is playing solid, but is good at picking spots to bluff. What is my move now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($259.05)
UTG ($185.20)
UTG+1 ($201)
MP1 ($447.15)
MP2 ($190)
CO ($253.20)
Button ($249.05)
SB ($416.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, Button raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero ?

DuRees · #2 03-06-2007, 08:53 AM

I would bet out the flop, or checkraise here to 36-40
sometimes (20%?) for variation, I call the flop and bet out the turn.

SpecT · #3 03-06-2007, 09:01 AM

3bet preflop yo.

as played id just call and hope to pick up the 8 of diamonds on the turn [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Patrio · #4 03-06-2007, 09:07 AM

Have you been railbirding? I decided to call and guess what the turn was? But what should I do now?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($259.05)
UTG ($185.20)
UTG+1 ($201)
MP1 ($447.15)
MP2 ($190)
CO ($253.20)
Button ($249.05)
SB ($416.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, Button raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero ?

SpecT · #5 03-06-2007, 09:09 AM

crai yo.

some should pokerstove it though to give us a fair idea of our equity if he calls. i think he'd need an overpair+ to call though.

edit - no i havent been railbirding... but that was pretty wierd eh

Kilillan · #6 03-06-2007, 09:12 AM

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I would bet out the flop, or checkraise here to 36-40
sometimes (20%?) for variation, I call the flop and bet out the turn.

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yeah both those options suck

as played c/r turn allin

Patrio · #7 03-06-2007, 09:15 AM

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($259.05)
UTG ($185.20)
UTG+1 ($201)
MP1 ($447.15)
MP2 ($190)
CO ($253.20)
Button ($249.05)
SB ($416.50)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
5 folds, Button raises to $8, 1 fold, Hero calls $6.

Flop: ($17) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $12, Hero calls $12.

Turn: ($41) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $20 Hero ?

Do I still crai after his smallish turn bet? Would'nt that just be overbetting to the max?

SpecT · #8 03-06-2007, 09:19 AM

oh, your deep... maybe i should of looked at that first. i dont know what the default line is here, coz usually by the turn u can easily crai.

maybe raise to $75 then go from there. but man, if u get called that'll get u into a ton of tough river spots. so yeh, maybe just calling is good here. i hope someone else can chime in, coz this is a spot i have trouble with.

Kilillan · #9 03-06-2007, 09:20 AM

why is overbetting a bad thing again

DrRock · #10 03-06-2007, 09:20 AM

pokenum -h jd td - ks kh -- 8d 9d 5s js
Holdem Hi: 44 enumerated boards containing Js 5s 9d 8d
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jd Td 20 45.45 24 54.55 0 0.00 0.455
Ks Kh 24 54.55 20 45.45 0 0.00 0.545