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Old 03-05-2007, 08:17 PM
pahala pahala is offline
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Default Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

Ok, this is the first time I'm doing this, so be gentle. Villain is 33/12/1.86 after ~130 hands, no other reads.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($39.95)
BB ($29.20)
UTG ($2.15)
Hero ($55.65)
CO ($49.25)
Button ($50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $1.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls $1.

Flop: ($4.75) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $48.5</font>, BB folds, Hero ?

Can I call this? He hasn't been doing anything crazy so far, so he does have something here. The worst case would be something like A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], but would he push with that? Against two pair I'm something like 47-53 to about even, against a set it's about 40-60.

The preflop raise is quite small yet standard at the table on that time. The hand I'm raising with is, I admit, marginal at best. Disregard that, let's concentrate on the flop action. Can I call his all-in? Should I have raised instead of calling the bet from BB?
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:46 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

If you have the bankroll to accept variance with this call then this is probably a call. Getting 59:43=1.3:1

I think too often you see made hands like 9T or AT to make this profitable though.
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

I'd dump this this pretty fast, you don't have much invested. I think he has KQ or maybe an A10o that's scared of the draws.

I don't like a flop raise since this board is likely to have hit your opponants well.
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Old 03-05-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

I'd dump as well.
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:09 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

snap call
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Old 03-05-2007, 09:13 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

If you like being a .8% favorite call
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:01 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

This is like an instafold.

What are you ahead of or have equity on that is going to RR AI for a massive overbet?
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:06 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

call, u have to get the money in on flop with such hands.. he is likely trying to protect his hand from getting outdrawn. and yes, you have to raise it
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:08 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

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If you like being a .8% favorite call

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It's not so much that we're favorites is why we're getting it in here...we're only getting it in if pot odds are favorable. I don't have poker stove on me at the moment, but could somebody analyze our draw against a range of AT, T9, any two pair combos, any sets (less likely tho in my opinion).
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Old 03-05-2007, 11:37 PM
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Default Re: Stars NL50 6-max: Big draw on the flop facing an all-in

Fold pre-flop.

As played...well, you're dead to AT of spades, most likely.
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