blowing chips from SB help

[-sk00lb0y-]

Fold pf? fold life? fold turn? HAYACHACHAHCA

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 (t9425)
MP2 (t15455)
MP3 (t8115)
CO (t22852)
Button (t8140)
Hero (t7405)
BB (t20287)
UTG (t5701)
UTG+1 (t11020)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t400, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t1200) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t700</font>, BB calls t700, MP1 folds.

Turn: (t2600) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t400</font>, Hero calls t400.

River: (t3400) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t400</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t3800

Later agaisnt same guy:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP2 (t19475)
MP3 (t14255)
CO (t7115)
Button (t7007)
SB (t7965)
Hero (t5705)
UTG (t21837)
UTG+1 (t6751)
MP1 (t18290)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls t400, <font color="#666666">7 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t1000) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t725</font>, UTG calls t725.

Turn: (t2450) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t4555 (All-In)</font>, UTG calls t4555.

River: (t11560) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t11560

I thought that he was just calling my C bets and trying to take it away on later streets, i guess i was wrong. I don't really know what to do here.

[luckychewy]

i would play it the same. depending on reads i think a turn bet could be okay(for example if he is peeling any pair on the flop or a gutshot or something). ofc u can't fold for so little on the turn and ofc u can't call even for so little on the river. nh.

[Machinehead]

Hand1, I'd call the river. 9.5:1, I think he shows a busted draw often enough. Plus we get to see what has.

[DiscipleAA]

If you call the river in hand 1, it has to be for information... even a very aggro player should have atleast a pair of threes here (machine unless he also had 2 diamonds there is no realistic draw he could show here... he could have air I guess but I dont think he is drawing at anything here, he probably has a weak piece of the board)...

As for hand two... I think you can pick a better spot... this sorta playing back with weaker hands out of your comfort zone is exactly how Aggros make their money...

Side Note - A C-bet (or continuation bet) has to be a continuation of something... in hands 1 and 2 you did not C-bet because you did not bet preflop... you just checked behind... he probably assumes you have exactly the type of hand you do have here in hand 2... A ragged BB hand...

[-sk00lb0y-]

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If you call the river in hand 1, it has to be for information... even a very aggro player should have atleast a pair of threes here (machine unless he also had 2 diamonds there is no realistic draw he could show here... he could have air I guess but I dont think he is drawing at anything here, he probably has a weak piece of the board)...

As for hand two... I think you can pick a better spot... this sorta playing back with weaker hands out of your comfort zone is exactly how Aggros make their money...

Side Note - A C-bet (or continuation bet) has to be a continuation of something... in hands 1 and 2 you did not C-bet because you did not bet preflop... you just checked behind... he probably assumes you have exactly the type of hand you do have here in hand 2... A ragged BB hand...

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I know, he had called my c-bets before...

[Green Kool Aid]

hand 1- i actually like leading here, although i don't do it often. rest of the hand is good. calling river is borderline collusion.

hand 2- nice river!!!!!!! for real though just check the flop i dont think betting has a lot of value here.

[eigenvalue]

Hand 1: This is terrible. If you bet a draw OOP, bet the flop AND THE TURN. If he calls the turn bet and you miss, check-fold. But bet that turn, otherwise you missply your draw.

Hand 2: You check your strong draws on hand 1 but you shove your weak draws in hand 2. I don't like that. Maybe switch your strategy and try just the opposite.

[DDBeast]

I play hand 1 the same.

Hand 2- I probably check/call the flop. The turn overbet is pretty bad. Why risk that many chips for a small pot when you will certainly be far behind if called?