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Old 03-03-2007, 06:36 AM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

Assume Button is a standard TaG. I actually folded but I think calling/3betting might be +EV. Stove says that I'm about 50:50 against his range. The question is: what is better, 3betting, calling or mixing it up? What is the lowest suited ace you are playing here?


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saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

HaiaN ($222.75)
UTG ($645.58)
MP ($251)
CO ($213.70)
Button ($195.20)
SB ($170)

Preflop: HaiaN is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $7</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Final Pot: $10
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:40 AM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

I 3-bet with any A here against a TAG
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Old 03-03-2007, 06:40 AM
Womble Womble is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

Im never calling this, no value whatsoeer in doing so.

3bettingis OK if the guy steals a lot. Defending blinds really sint worth it unlessthe player stealing isnt too good
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:00 AM
HaiaN HaiaN is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

I do not want to defend but get into a +EV situation [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
So you guys say calling sucks under any circumstances? How often do you fold/3bet?
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Old 03-03-2007, 07:04 AM
kolotoure kolotoure is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

HaiaN, my range here for 3-betting here depends a lot on villains attempt to steal blinds % and how often villain folds to a 3-bet
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:33 AM
Jiggle-Billy Jiggle-Billy is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

dude he probably has ace and king which means youre in bad shape

if he doesnt then he has king king or queen queen and you dont have many outs

plus you might lose a big pot if it comes KcKc9c and you call and he has KK for qUADS
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:41 AM
Jiggle-Billy Jiggle-Billy is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

[censored] what if he had king and queen

he might have made a monkey out of you
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:50 AM
let_me_pay let_me_pay is offline
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Default Re: NL200 preflop: BB w. Axs vs Button

IF you wanna get +EV from the BB versus a frequent stealer, call preflop and c/r hes CB like 25% of hes steal attempts. This way you will not only get hes initial preflop raise but also the CB. For optimal EV i think we can do this play more often then 25% aswell. IŽll do this with any 2 cards about and i think your holding in those situations aint to important.
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