Do you have to count out your all in?

[Plazman]

Got a question for you guys...

My friend and I are in disagreement on this. If I'm head's up and push all in, am I required to announce the amount of the raise, regardless of whether my opponent has asked?

We rotate the deal around the table. Let's say neither I nor my head's up opponent are the dealer. I push all in. My opponent leans back and is considering this move. In that case in point, my friend, not in the hand, reached over and counted out my raise. This kind of annoyed me, as no one had asked for it to be counted. His reasoning is that, in a casino, the dealer would do it automatically. Since this dealer didn't, he stepped in to facilitate. This is reasonable. Personally, even when I'm the one considering the call, I don't like people to count it out unless I ask them too. It's distracting. And if I DO ask them too, I prefer the playing I'm in the hand to do it, rather than someone else.

What do you all think?

[flatline]

You only have to provide the amount if asked.

[Rottersod]

The dealer in a casino won't automatically count out your raise. Tell your friend not to touch your chips. If the other guy want s a count he can ask for it and then you give him one.

[GoAheadRiverMe]

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The dealer in a casino won't automatically count out your raise. Tell your friend not to touch your chips. If the other guy want s a count he can ask for it and then you give him one.

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[DavidNB]

No your friend shouldn't really touch your chips without asking. But in a friendly hom egame, players watching may wish to "help out/speed up the game" by counting out your chips. At my home game, we never count out heads up unless the short stack wins.

[ohgeetee]

"At my home game, we never count out heads up unless the short stack wins."

Even if asked? Must be a juicy game if no one considers stack sizes when deciding whether or not to call. Depending on how deep the stacks are, its often difficult to tell the difference between a 3:1 and 2:1 chip lead, but this could be crucial to making a decision.

[DavidNB]

Sorry, perhaps worded too quickly. With colouring up during the game, by the time we are heads up, its fairly easy to estimate how much one player has vs another. If anyone asks, they would have to count. Sometimes when the stacks are close, it would be counted out to see who is ahead.

[wedgeporter]

I am annoyed by a player counting my chips but there are players in the game who can use help counting out theirs. It is only a friendly home game so rules on such things are fairly relaxed.

[pfapfap]

Players in my game get a little twitchy when someone counts out an all-in without being asked by anybody. In my view, that should absolutely not be allowed. The person is presenting a bet a certain way, and the other person being intimidated doesn't need "oh, it's only four more to call..." At the same time, we don't need all-in's buddy to help out with, "oh, it's only four more to call..."

Also, dealer should be the one touching chips, not other players. One dealer per hand. Holding to that guide can prevent a lot of squishiness.

[SmokeyRidesAgain]

I get really [censored] pissed off with this guy at a game I go to, he always swaps denominations and [censored] without asking, and touches your chips without even saying anything. Whiskey tango foxtrot?