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Old 03-02-2007, 02:36 PM
rapsu rapsu is offline
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Default too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t2385)
SB (t985)
BB (t2160)
UTG (t2110)
UTG+1 (t2690)
MP1 (t2595)
MP2 (t1855)
MP3 (t1750)
CO (t2035)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to t120</font>, Hero calls t120, SB calls t105, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: (t390) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets t180</font>, Hero calls t180, SB calls t180.

Turn: (t930) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t500</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t685</font>, CO folds, Hero calls t185.

River: (t2300) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t2300

I was hoping on the flop to induce the short stack SB to move all in.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

CO raise + button + AA = raise pre-flop.

(You want to play big pots with big hands and position.)

The flop is draw heavy. I raise here 100% of the time.

As played: check behind on turn.

No idea what happened on river, but I assume you got your ass handed to you. As played, I check fold the river.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:53 PM
LuckyLloyd LuckyLloyd is offline
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

Raise the flop - get money in there and inflate the pot. People will call you // raise you with aces // flush draws in that spot. You now will only beat a bluff on the river.
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Old 03-02-2007, 02:55 PM
Valsuvious Valsuvious is offline
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

The SB went all in on the turn anyways for less than 200 extra chips than what he bet with.

As is, what was said was true, but I think that no matter what, you aren't going to fold a set of aces. The river really made no difference in the hand to you, but either way, you apparantely let the short stack push with any diamond and I'm sure he won with a flush. Assuming that he had a decent hand, with that flop you probably aren't going to remove anyone with a diamond off of the hand and obviously after the turn anyone with a high diamond will probably stay around for the ride..
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

Preflop, CO raised to 4xBB, so he probably doesn't want to fold. Reraise to 300. He won't put you on aces.

Raise the flop because of the draws. As played, push the turn.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

FYI SB had JcQd
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:19 PM
Mclane665 Mclane665 is offline
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

You should have charged him to get there I would raise the pot on the river then if he wants to chase dreams he is welcome to it. Your hand is strong but far from a lock and you should have protected it.
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Old 03-02-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

I would raise preflop and the flop. Even though it looks like you have the nuts, this is an action flop.

Your play is not as bad as it looks from the results though. You were 72% against villain on the flop and 68% on the turn.
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:21 PM
Cali4niaRaisin Cali4niaRaisin is offline
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

I think the blinds are too small to induce a shortstack push...speed up hero
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Old 03-02-2007, 04:22 PM
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Default Re: too slow play for aces? $20 180 players sit&go

Don't get too cute early in a tourne when the blinds are small.
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