$55 - JJ - Level 2

Scuba Chuck · #1 02-12-2006, 01:34 AM

Villain is a high vpiper, low pfr-er. On the previous hand, this guy had raised to 80 as the first to enter the pot, I called with TT. We checked the flop through, and I bet my improved hand on the turn, and he folded.

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UTG (t915)
UTG+1 (t975)
MP1 (t855)
MP2 (t605)
MP3 (t860)
CO (t2530)
Hero (t1390)
SB (t930)
BB (t940)

Preflop: Hero is in Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 calls t30, CO folds, Hero raises to t80, SB folds, BB folds, MP3 calls t50

Flop: (t205) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
MP3 bets t95, Hero folds

My question is, can I push him off his weak ace?

Myst · #2 02-12-2006, 01:36 AM

probably not.

splashpot · #3 02-12-2006, 01:38 AM

If I raise this preflop, I'm raising to more than 80. 100-120 bare minimum. If you raise to 80, all you're doing is making the pot slightly bigger and harder to give up on the flop. When I raise preflop, I like to make it a hard decision for my opponent. 80 doesn't make it a hard decision for him.

Scuba Chuck · #4 02-12-2006, 01:40 AM

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If I raise this preflop, I'm raising to more than 80. 100-120 bare minimum. If you raise to 80, all you're doing is making the pot slightly bigger and harder to give up on the flop. When I raise preflop, I like to make it a hard decision for my opponent. 80 doesn't make it a hard decision for him.

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My objective is not to rid him of the pot, but to remove the blinds from calling or playing in the hand. I'd prefer to play this hand HU.

splashpot · #5 02-12-2006, 01:41 AM

I still like to make the decsion a little tough for him. Why give him good odds at all?

Scuba Chuck · #6 02-12-2006, 01:42 AM

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I still like to make the decsion a little tough for him. Why give him good odds at all?

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What are you afraid of?

bigt439 · #7 02-12-2006, 01:43 AM

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probably not.

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A very good rule of thumb is to never try this at the $55's.

And pf needs to be bigger fo sho.

b33nz · #8 02-12-2006, 01:46 AM

How do you know he has a weak ace?

And no, if he is willing to limp, then called a raise OOP with a weak ace preflop... then I'm guessing that's his dream flop and he isn't folding for nothing.

splashpot · #9 02-12-2006, 01:46 AM

Who said I'm afraid? But lets face it, any overcard comes and you're potentionally in trouble. I'm just saying, if you're going to raise, at least make it a real raise. It's pretty much the same reason good players never min-raise early on.

Scuba Chuck · #10 02-12-2006, 01:50 AM

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Who said I'm afraid? But lets face it, any overcard comes and you're potentionally in trouble. I'm just saying, if you're going to raise, at least make it a real raise. It's pretty much the same reason good players never min-raise early on.

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OK, so I raise to 100, same situation follows, now what? I don't think anything is gonna keep this guy from calling (if that's you're objective) unless you're in the 130-175 range. And as I said, it's not my objective, to keep him out of the pot. My objective is to play a small pot with as few people as possible.

I mean, I raise more, and I'm in the same boat, unless it folds around, and then, big deal.