2 hands vs aggro villain

ImsaKidd · #1 03-01-2007, 08:11 PM

I've been taking villain to 3town a ton. He folds a fair bit, postflop hes kinda bluffy and unpredictable. Stats 32/27/4. He might be frustrated with me as a result of 3b'ing/cbing/etc.

Hand 1: results included as history for hand 2. Is the c/c line good here?

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saw flop|saw showdown

BB ($1073.35)
UTG ($345.20)
Hero ($292.70)
CO ($200)
Button ($513.70)
SB ($92.05)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. CO posts a blind of $2.
UTG raises to $6, Hero raises to $24, 4 folds, UTG calls $18.

Flop: ($53) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

Turn: ($53) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $10, Hero calls $10.

River: ($73) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $44, Hero calls $44.

Final Pot: $161

UTG has Jh Ks (two pair, sixes and fours).
Hero has Jd Jc (two pair, jacks and sixes).
Outcome: Hero wins $161.

Hand 2: Is turn a lead? I was planning to CRAI as he can obv 2 barrel bluff here. We know stuff like KJo is in his range here, so this river sucks, right? he MIGHT check like 98 behind on turn, maybe not.

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MP ($1062.45)
Button ($290.30)
Hero ($333.70)
BB ($200)
UTG ($529.70)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
2 folds, Button raises to $6, Hero raises to $22, 1 fold, Button calls $16.

Flop: ($46) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $20, Hero calls $20.

Turn: ($86) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($86) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $44, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $130

MasterLJ · #2 03-01-2007, 08:14 PM

Hand 1: I like it
Hand 2: You can lead turn, but this means you come over the top if he raises.
Checking is fine, but it means you must call virtually any river. Honestly, I think you are good on that river a lot. If you are not sure, raise.

willw9 · #3 03-01-2007, 08:15 PM

Bet flop in first hand, $40-$50.

As played, raise turn.

Bet flop in second hand, $36-$46.

As played, fine. But don't do that again.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

willw9 · #4 03-01-2007, 08:24 PM

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huh?

MasterLJ · #5 03-01-2007, 08:26 PM

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huh?

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A 36/27 isn't going to have miraculously strong holdings, and you'd be surprised how quickly they back down when they aren't the ones being aggressive. If you are really sure you are good, call. If you think there's a chance he may have A6 or K6, or some other crap hand that beats you, then raise.

ImsaKidd · #6 03-01-2007, 08:26 PM

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Bet flop in first hand, $40-$50.

As played, raise turn.

Bet flop in second hand, $36-$46.

As played, fine. But don't do that again.. [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]

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Betting flop in both of these isnt a great way to get value, and we lose extra value because he will be less inclinded to bluff his KJo or w/e.

ImsaKidd · #7 03-01-2007, 08:28 PM

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huh?

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A 36/27 isn't going to have miraculously strong holdings, and you'd be surprised how quickly they back down when they aren't the ones being aggressive. If you are really sure you are good, call. If you think there's a chance he may have A6 or K6, or some other crap hand that beats you, then raise.

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I think his bet here is a huge hand (TP+ is huge for him i guess), or a bluff. I dont see him firing A6 on the river, maybe though.

MasterLJ · #8 03-01-2007, 08:29 PM

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huh?

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A 36/27 isn't going to have miraculously strong holdings, and you'd be surprised how quickly they back down when they aren't the ones being aggressive. If you are really sure you are good, call. If you think there's a chance he may have A6 or K6, or some other crap hand that beats you, then raise.

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I think his bet here is a huge hand (TP+ is huge for him i guess), or a bluff. I dont see him firing A6 on the river, maybe though.

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From bet amounts, I'd be inclined to agree. If he potted the river, I'd be more inclined to shove.

RiverHebrew2 · #9 03-01-2007, 08:44 PM

Hand 2... why reraise preflop then c/c flop? It allows him to catch free cards on future streets, which is what happened. Hand 2- lead flop. I like how you played each hand very passively to let villain bluff, however, you let him get too many free cards.

ImsaKidd · #10 03-01-2007, 08:55 PM

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Hand 2... why reraise preflop then c/c flop? It allows him to catch free cards on future streets, which is what happened. Hand 2- lead flop. I like how you played each hand very passively to let villain bluff, however, you let him get too many free cards.

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Just betting because you flopped a pair or overpair in a RR pot is not the way to maximize value by any means IMO.