1/45 KK MP1 how was my turn bet

Feike · #1 02-28-2007, 04:57 PM

Hi, I've been a regular reader of this forum, and am a recreational Poker player who doesn't imagine going pro within another 10 years...

Situation: one of the first 10 hands in the tourney. I doubled up because I had Aces only a few hands before.
I haven't been active at all, Villain is calling a lot.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (Villain)/ (t1640)
Hero (t3010)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1470)
CO (t1470)
Button (t2210)
SB (t740)
BB (t10)
UTG (t1480)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 (Villain)/ calls t20, Hero raises to t100, 6 folds, UTG+1 (Villain)/ calls t80.

Flop: (t220) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain bets t100, Hero raises to t460, Villain calls t360.

Turn: (t1140) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets t600, Villain raises to t1080, Hero calls t480.

Final Pot: t3300

Comments would be very much appreciated.

Sherman · #2 02-28-2007, 05:01 PM

Easy call. Oh...the turn bet. Sure, whatever gets all his chips in.

Fiksdal · #3 02-28-2007, 05:03 PM

Just put him all-in on the turn. Other than that, I like your line on all streets. Now call.

Feike · #4 02-28-2007, 05:10 PM

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Just put him all-in on the turn. Other than that, I like your line on all streets. Now call.

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He was already all-in don't know why it doesn't show.

Fiksdal · #5 02-28-2007, 05:12 PM

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Just put him all-in on the turn. Other than that, I like your line on all streets. Now call.

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He was already all-in don't know why it doesn't show.

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Turn: (t1140) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Villain checks, Hero bets t600

I mean here. I would have bet all-in instead of t600 here.

Feike · #6 02-28-2007, 05:20 PM

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I mean here. I would have bet all-in instead of t600 here.

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I thought I was either up against AA (very unlikly) or I was a huge favourite. I didn't want to give him the odds to call for a straight draw, that's why I chose this amount.
Didn't mind him raising all-in though.

mariachiinc · #7 02-28-2007, 05:26 PM

I'd put him all in on the turn, don't give anymore free cards if he has any draw

Feike · #8 02-28-2007, 05:32 PM

Ok I can see your lines of thought of putting him all-in, but betting 600 at a 1080 stack pretty much gives him the option to fold or raise all-in.
Perhaps I'm trying to be to smart, but I thought the 600 would scare him less than an all-in. I wanted him to go all-in.

Sherman · #9 02-28-2007, 05:39 PM

While your line of thinking works well against non-thinking players, it won't ever work against someone who thinks.

A thinking player with your opponents stack-size would realize that if he moved All-In, it could only be for value because he has Zero fold equity.

However, I don't think your line is bad against non-thinking players. I see them do this often not realizing that there is zero chance of you folding.

Feike · #10 02-28-2007, 05:50 PM

Thank you for the comment shermn27. But wouldn't a thinking player know that the 600 represents a bet to not let him draw?
It's a bit of a cash-game argument, but does it hold?

I'm playing pretty straight forward ABC poker I suppose on these small levels, and I think I may be trying to outsmart myself sometimes.