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Old 02-28-2007, 04:11 PM
JoseGonzlez JoseGonzlez is offline
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Default Bold call in the 20 Freezeout

Ok i so decide to limp QQ to extract some value out of the MP limper (not usually my thing but i thought he might overplay top pair and he would fold if i reraised.)

The BB is pretty loose so i take his big bet as weakness.
MP might call his raise with less a premium.

Thought process : i need to take chances to get deep in these freezeouts cause im usually out of chips i might be ahead.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t800 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t34561)
MP1 (t15030)
MP2 (t8061)
MP3 (t29050)
Hero (t12996)
Button (t9865)
SB (t4405)
BB (t11520)
UTG (t7201)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls t800, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t800, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB checks.

Flop: (t2800) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t10670 (All-In)</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t14180</font>, Hero calls t12146 (All-In).

Turn: (t39796) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

River: (t39796) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players, 2 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: t39796
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:14 PM
Mingdu Mingdu is offline
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Default Re: Bold call in the 20 Freezeout

yikes

If you slow play QQ then you must be able to let them go ... as played I fold to all that post flop action
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: Bold call in the 20 Freezeout

Preflop, the limp behind is a little questionable, but not terrible. The main prupose of this play is to limpreraise, so only do this if you expect to be raised.

On the flop, I think it is an easy call. Any ace has a gutshot, 77, 66, and 22 have straight draws. This could also get action from flush draws and low overpairs. There is an excellent chance QQ is ahead, and you probably have outs 3-way. Your hand is underrepresented. Folding is really bad.
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:28 PM
JoseGonzlez JoseGonzlez is offline
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Default Re: Bold call in the 20 Freezeout

Betgo, if you read was the guy raises medium and strong hands and limps bad hands you would not want to see a flop with QQ?

Too much of a risk of the BB and SB having Kx Ax?

or is it better to just pick up 20 percent to our stack without much risk?
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:35 PM
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Default Re: Bold call in the 20 Freezeout

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Betgo, if you read was the guy raises medium and strong hands and limps bad hands you would not want to see a flop with QQ?

Too much of a risk of the BB and SB having Kx Ax?

or is it better to just pick up 20 percent to our stack without much risk?

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Just raise the limper, and don't mind if you pick up the pot. Hands like QQ or AK lose a lot of their value in unraised pot. His bad hand can make two pair in a limped pot and bust your overpair.

The only reasons for the overlimp is to limpreraise and for deception., but playing QQ in a limped pot is not a disaster.
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