I'M ON YOUR FLOPZ, RAISING YOUR CBETZ

[Dan Bitel]

Villain is skater87, a 21/17/4 TAG. Hero has a standard TAG image. Little history.

Whats the best way to play this hand? Flop/Turn/river lines please.

Full Tilt Poker
$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Ring Game
6 Players
LegoPoker Hand Converter

<font color="black">Stack Sizes</font>
BTN: $266.60
SB: $79.75
BB: $199.7
Hero (UTG): $200
MP: $77
CO: $214.25

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> K K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] ($3, 6 players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7</font>, MP folds, CO folds, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 ($17, 2 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $45</font>,

[nuggetz87]

i would call and check/call down if you think he would do that without 55 (which he should sometimes). not sure what else he's coldcalling with preflop besides 55, 99, and hands that you beat.

[Hince]

I probably C/c this down without any other read, but might be able to fold if he is extremely straight forward.

[jaustin]

Unless he has 55, maybe 89 or T9 (would he cold-call here w/ SCs?) or an oddly played AA, you're well ahead. I'm thinking this is a spade draw most of the time. I don't see any way to play it other than shove, I don't think you can play it any other way, since waiting for the turn allows villain to play passively if he's on a draw or keep betting if he has you beat.

[orange]

call/lead turn or c/r it. i think donkey villan has enough hands raising this flop to play for stacks.

[Dan Bitel]

orange,

if we call lead turn, do we bet/call or bet/fold?

[PBJaxx]

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orange,

if we call lead turn, do we bet/call or bet/fold?

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bet/call

[orange]

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orange,

if we call lead turn, do we bet/call or bet/fold?

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eh, by that time, i doubt he's shoving with air/66/whatever, folding is probably best. the problem is our line is transparent with a hand that is good but cant stand that much heat so if you and villan are thinking on multiple levels, i can see a call. but in general, probably b/f turn.

i also like c/r-ing turn, though i think the chance that villan checks behind with his spades/etc is quite high.

[PBJaxx]

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i also like c/r-ing turn, though i think the chance that villan checks behind with his 86/spades/etc is quite high.

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I agree with this. I really want to call the flop and C/R AI on the turn. I think most TAGs at 1/2 fire again on the turn with a draw, but I think Skater87 will check behind too often, so I probably raise the flop or call/lead.

[PBJaxx]

Against most TAGs, I probably call flop, then C/R any non-spade turn AI.

Against skater87, I raise the flop smallish and call a shove.